Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932091AbVLNRWK (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:22:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751302AbVLNRWK (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:22:10 -0500 Received: from ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com ([166.70.28.69]:18617 "EHLO ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751300AbVLNRWJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:22:09 -0500 To: "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" Cc: "Brian Gerst" , "Arjan van de Ven" , "M." , "Andrea Arcangeli" , "William Lee Irwin III" , "Linux kernel" Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051205121851.GC2838@holomorphy.com> <20051206011844.GO28539@opteron.random> <43944F42.2070207@didntduck.org> <20051206030828.GA823@opteron.random> <1133869465.4836.11.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4394ECA7.80808@didntduck.org> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:20:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: (linux-os@analogic.com's message of "Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:01:49 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1203 Lines: 38 "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" writes: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > >> "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" writes: >> >>> When the linux-BIOS group started, few knew where to start. Then, >>> mysteriously, there was a complete directory tree of a well-known >>> BIOS that appeared on the web. That was a start. >> >> Nope it wasn't. None of the developers even read the code. >> We needed to keep our hands clean. >> >> Eric >> > > Standard disclaimer #123 And it is true. It's not like a mess of 20 year old spaghetti assembly is a useful starting point for anything. I sat down and I read the relevant standards documents and what chipset documentation there was and I manged to write code. It's not like there is anything fundamentally hard about what bootstrap firmware does. Not to be insulting but disbelief here sounds a lot like SCO's assertion that Linus couldn't written linux. Eric - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/