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Date:   Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:24:23 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] kernel.h: Add non_block_start/end()
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On Thu 15-08-19 10:04:15, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:44:29AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > As the oom reaper is the primary guarantee of the oom handling forward
> > progress it cannot be blocked on anything that might depend on blockable
> > memory allocations. These are not really easy to track because they
> > might be indirect - e.g. notifier blocks on a lock which other context
> > holds while allocating memory or waiting for a flusher that needs memory
> > to perform its work.
> 
> But lockdep *does* track all this and fs_reclaim_acquire() was created
> to solve exactly this problem.
> 
> fs_reclaim is a lock and it flows through all the usual lockdep
> schemes like any other lock. Any time the page allocator wants to do
> something the would deadlock with reclaim it takes the lock.

Our emails have crossed. Even if fs_reclaim can be re-purposed for other
than FS/IO reclaim contexts which I am not sure about I think that
lockdep is too heavy weight for the purpose of this debugging aid in the
first place. The non block mode is really something as simple as "hey
mmu notifier you are only allowed to do a lightweight processing, if you
cannot guarantee that then just back off". The annotation will give us a
warning if the notifier gets out of this promise.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs