Received: by 2002:a25:8b12:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i18csp2732035ybl; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz75dYFG2teboCL9bjgvW3SRB7C8Uar1sDXJYqwStsJomxhXx+4I8QXayzo/nRvPufScQCE X-Received: by 2002:a63:d002:: with SMTP id z2mr20413235pgf.364.1566222365759; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:46:05 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1566222365; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=kLGhoWOTiK072rFslDpJ99/M+4NpMZdl282HZN4GKryJKUBGZgUMBcZWycxVCZkhk3 IKBn4WGBUufQPvKTE0/YT9/asu4RqwDQFLIBt80uk3QH7y4GdHpvVLbtiGkg5L4HHmVE OuW/YmeBsG8PFIOz0htdX+ZulIQqYTsV/Kp1al1J/0zGp7F9stSeooJmTWvx/jiGZuPM r1na+6Ir7ObohxLhD6tA9NpC+ODvAwKyS5hj7gBrOuJN7NzWZ2vOo4f49/TNZgUoS9dS jmkOgzIlByLsAkw6yFW3PvpzlE7jh9pTjuiJOMdjGD4uetHAYIu16OOZ3JmB+yeJJCel XRlg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=iV66AxNuXXyAU1dbGhs8I+QQhIovI/xQUoLgX9PoIuU=; b=fQXTqIEUPv/3P906/MZtezSO0/9IB+k9UK2u6Pjoj8q/bVT+krZj4LS7PvqIOow3R3 0ZYSDq90fX7HlEOpcqxzs7zIQnRCLgehZ/4e74VJ+ZiDv2Sd4V65Tdfl67HlXBrBvyEF c0QkqUkSiNONM8hENnUh1ug/S9ohQSnGD/b+rbIWNq5uAv10yF+bT0dUyu++HnUva8Ug Yxe2ddl2lBZSXiOIgb4HGXb0IOFRsZv8QRkDbsHAxaIZlJqLadEQ+08QleVavNpHSweL 58xeTOKM8pCfAhMZPPeIMlHoOqdynYjOWLvwbnD2OVazd3oqq+CLfm8DTNU530s7t0ZU 8sig== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y190si10567662pfy.62.2019.08.19.06.45.50; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727735AbfHSNnK (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:43:10 -0400 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([193.142.43.55]:47283 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727332AbfHSNnK (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:43:10 -0400 Received: from [5.158.153.52] (helo=nanos.tec.linutronix.de) by Galois.linutronix.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hzhw7-0004kQ-JD; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:43:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:43:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Karel Zak cc: Alexandre Belloni , Lennart Poettering , Arnd Bergmann , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List , John Stultz , Stephen Boyd , Florian Weimer , "H. Peter Anvin" , Palmer Dabbelt , Alistair Francis , GNU C Library , OGAWA Hirofumi Subject: Re: New kernel interface for sys_tz and timewarp? In-Reply-To: <20190819110903.if3dzhvfnlqutn6s@ws.net.home> Message-ID: References: <20190814000622.GB20365@mit.edu> <20190814090936.GB10516@gardel-login> <20190814093208.GG3600@piout.net> <20190819110903.if3dzhvfnlqutn6s@ws.net.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Karel Zak wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:32:08AM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote: > > On 14/08/2019 11:09:36+0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Mi, 14.08.19 10:31, Arnd Bergmann (arnd@arndb.de) wrote: > > > > > > > - glibc stops passing the caller timezone argument to the kernel > > > > - the distro kernel disables CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS, > > > > CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC and CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE > > > > > > What's the benefit of letting userspace do this? It sounds a lot more > > > fragile to leave this syncing to userspace if the kernel can do this > > > trivially on its own. > > Good point, why CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC has been added to the kernel? 023f333a99ce ("NTP: Add a CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC configuration")