Received: by 2002:a25:8b12:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i18csp2738183ybl; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyhqci2mNLkSevzUy537z9Ko4e30C9fZge+uXDGUtV7v3xCDhiFt3wrRiZVOrd26t90dg46 X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8746:: with SMTP id g6mr23125694pfo.191.1566222726447; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1566222726; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=dgyn1tcWHarXjZHKd9/Lw+F35ZkCGPeCoIVC5KCPpI6XSFTHhuoTCe6YK0MyeDLR+R LVMgc3Jys/aVYhiZNA9Uj33YVn0eBgtSSMIazPOb0pWfNQZU0Z0grep9O8yfMojaiEjk jDjxaee2cda+6cR3L6+nki383MEGEVcznwoztq2PKXe2cLKMmkydQf14TmFSogWC5DTj g5sL8A9haUBTQ4vzV3MG43KffP21jMr99LNHwblfvMBbqUha0ljbrctGJNATdQWVGreD xOrDtK8ZjGR1bmMkfzZu7JSGcKvZXi0umh2obCuCrRV7AkcgoOrO+EsR8wgZqLJntK+V 8jfg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=UZZnC06dAJPR5uP/w57Ru5kmUHwNwSTVoQGRJdEbKEc=; b=hr/Px+1StkqmCzDSn1C3o7lN7jwEImW9X5Knz4yv80uMcbJAvpbFrYiVGgOcV81V8D fDtDRm6mKA8o4hwiSgx/k2VfQ8lZH3CLyqpcNujimAnaBAbGe/hzMtli6pWGOtDcJzFs 7F0neo3FY/I9xMyEWTGiEI4p3oLHuRNLx0MxXUAp7hCqUX7Nvcy3kkLVAAshUMHb3+JC BZO0Bf8Vn32RPimlZDOXm/56+drdQocbdif0HrUpaSgHy7DyjbIigh/AMfkRwSfKARo9 WGwqX//Kjr0Fc4/PpwTTY4Sxks/pB3VjjI/H2vOWw72YzfLXpChnlPSQkciC4qRUVaEB amfQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e10si8870729pjw.30.2019.08.19.06.51.51; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727735AbfHSNt3 (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:49:29 -0400 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([193.142.43.55]:47321 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726987AbfHSNt3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:49:29 -0400 Received: from [5.158.153.52] (helo=nanos.tec.linutronix.de) by Galois.linutronix.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hzi2G-0004rQ-VG; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:49:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:49:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Karel Zak cc: Alexandre Belloni , Lennart Poettering , Arnd Bergmann , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List , John Stultz , Stephen Boyd , Florian Weimer , "H. Peter Anvin" , Palmer Dabbelt , Alistair Francis , GNU C Library , OGAWA Hirofumi Subject: Re: New kernel interface for sys_tz and timewarp? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20190814000622.GB20365@mit.edu> <20190814090936.GB10516@gardel-login> <20190814093208.GG3600@piout.net> <20190819110903.if3dzhvfnlqutn6s@ws.net.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Karel Zak wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:32:08AM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote: > > > On 14/08/2019 11:09:36+0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > On Mi, 14.08.19 10:31, Arnd Bergmann (arnd@arndb.de) wrote: > > > > > > > > > - glibc stops passing the caller timezone argument to the kernel > > > > > - the distro kernel disables CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS, > > > > > CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC and CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE > > > > > > > > What's the benefit of letting userspace do this? It sounds a lot more > > > > fragile to leave this syncing to userspace if the kernel can do this > > > > trivially on its own. > > > > Good point, why CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC has been added to the kernel? > > 023f333a99ce ("NTP: Add a CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC configuration") Just for the record. Not a single defconfig enables, but it's selected by SPARC for whatever reason. Thanks, tglx