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McKenney" To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Linus Torvalds , Valentin Schneider , Joel Fernandes , Thomas Gleixner , Alan Stern , Mathieu Desnoyers , rostedt , linux-kernel , Boqun Feng , Will Deacon , David Howells Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Fix: trace sched switch start/stop racy updates Message-ID: <20190820205252.GY28441@linux.ibm.com> Reply-To: paulmck@linux.ibm.com References: <20190816205740.GF10481@google.com> <3c0cb8a2-eba2-7bea-8523-b948253a6804@arm.com> <20190817045217.GZ28441@linux.ibm.com> <20190820140116.GT2332@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190820203135.GX28441@linux.ibm.com> <20190820203939.GV2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190820203939.GV2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-08-20_09:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908200188 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:39:39PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 01:31:35PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 04:01:16PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > We really should get the compiler folks to give us a > > > -fno-pointer-provenance. Waiting on the standards committee to get their > > > act together seems unlikely, esp. given that some people actually seem > > > to _want_ this nonsense :/ > > > > The reason that they want it is to enable some significant optimizations > > in numerical code on the one hand and in heavily templated C++ code on > > the other. Neither of which has much bearing on kernel code. > > > > Interested in coming to the next C standards committee meeting in October > > to help me push for this? ;-) > > How about we try and get some compiler folks together at plumbers and > bribe them with beer? Once we have our compiler knob, we happy :-) C'mon, Peter! Where is your sense of self-destruction??? ;-) But yes, if nothing else there is a Toolchains MC [1]. Which happens to have a topic entitled "Potential impact/benefit/detriment of recently developed GCC optimizations on the kernel", now that you mention it. Looking forward to seeing you in Lisbon! Thanx, Paul [1] https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/4/sessions/45/#20190909