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McKenney wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:32:01AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > >> > and so it is using a store-pair instruction to reduce the complexity in >> > the immediate generation. Thus, the 64-bit store will only have 32-bit >> > atomicity. In fact, this is scary because if I change bar to: >> > >> > void bar(u64 *x) >> > { >> > *(volatile u64 *)x = 0xabcdef10abcdef10; >> > } >> > >> > then I get: >> > >> > bar: >> > mov w1, 61200 >> > movk w1, 0xabcd, lsl 16 >> > str w1, [x0] >> > str w1, [x0, 4] >> > ret >> > >> > so I'm not sure that WRITE_ONCE would even help :/ >> >> Well, I can have the LWN article cite your email, then. So thank you >> very much! >> >> Is generation of this code for a 64-bit volatile store considered a bug? >> Or does ARMv8 exclude the possibility of 64-bit MMIO registers? And I >> would guess that Thomas and Linus would ask a similar bugginess question >> for normal stores. ;-) > > I'm calling this a compiler bug; the way I understand volatile this is > very much against the intentended use case. That is, this is buggy even > on UP vs signals or MMIO. And here is a simpler reproducer on my gcc-8.3.0 (aarch64) compiled with O2: volatile unsigned long a; void fct(void) { a = 0x1234567812345678ULL; } void fct(void) { a = 0x1234567812345678ULL; 0: 90000000 adrp x0, 8 4: 528acf01 mov w1, #0x5678 // #22136 8: 72a24681 movk w1, #0x1234, lsl #16 c: f9400000 ldr x0, [x0] 10: b9000001 str w1, [x0] 14: b9000401 str w1, [x0, #4] } 18: d65f03c0 ret And the non-volatile case uses stp (is it a single store to memory ?): unsigned long a; void fct(void) { a = 0x1234567812345678ULL; } void fct(void) { a = 0x1234567812345678ULL; 0: 90000000 adrp x0, 8 4: 528acf01 mov w1, #0x5678 // #22136 8: 72a24681 movk w1, #0x1234, lsl #16 c: f9400000 ldr x0, [x0] 10: 29000401 stp w1, w1, [x0] } 14: d65f03c0 ret It would probably be a good idea to audit other architectures, since this is done by the compiler backend. Thanks, Mathieu -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com