Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932137AbVLTWnN (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:43:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932159AbVLTWnM (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:43:12 -0500 Received: from relais.videotron.ca ([24.201.245.36]:39896 "EHLO relais.videotron.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932137AbVLTWnM (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:43:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:43:03 -0500 (EST) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: [patch 04/15] Generic Mutex Subsystem, add-atomic-call-func-x86_64.patch In-reply-to: X-X-Sender: nico@localhost.localdomain To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Russell King , Nick Piggin , Ingo Molnar , David Woodhouse , Zwane Mwaikambo , lkml , Andrew Morton , Arjan van de Ven , Steven Rostedt , Alan Cox , Christoph Hellwig , Andi Kleen , David Howells , Alexander Viro , Oleg Nesterov , Paul Jackson Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20051219013507.GE27658@elte.hu> <1135025932.4760.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051220043109.GC32039@elte.hu> <43A7BCE1.7050401@yahoo.com.au> <43A81132.8040703@yahoo.com.au> <20051220193423.GC24199@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1159 Lines: 30 On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Quite frankly, what has disgusted me about this mutex discussion is the > totally specious arguments for the new mutexes that just rubs me entirely > the wrong way. > [...] > > In other words: if people didn't mix up issues that had nothing to do with > this into it, I'd be happier. I've already said that a mutex that does > _not_ replace semaphore (and doesn't mess with naming) is acceptable. Oh if it is so we are in _violent_ agreement then. I don't dispute that at all and I pretty agree with a separate namespace for mutexes. Actually I think no one contested that either. Current semaphores can be migrated to mutexes individually when that makes sense to do so, separately. With regards to my _implementation_ concerns about the proposed mutex patches I guess I can discuss them with Ingo (and an actual patch is coming to fix them). Nicolas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/