Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932451AbVLUQ7A (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:59:00 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751143AbVLUQ7A (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:59:00 -0500 Received: from ip201.pianodisc.com ([207.173.133.201]:53520 "EHLO EXCHANGE01-Srv.pianodisc.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751142AbVLUQ7A (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:59:00 -0500 Message-ID: <43A989CF.3000901@pianodisc.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:58:55 -0800 From: Steve deRosier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: James Courtier-Dutton , Adrian Bunk , Sergey Vlasov , Ricardo Cerqueira , mchehab@brturbo.com.br, Linux Kernel Mailing List , video4linux-list@redhat.com, perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c References: <20051220131810.GB6789@stusta.de> <20051220155216.GA19797@master.mivlgu.local> <20051220191412.GA4578@stusta.de> <43A86B20.1090104@superbug.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2005 16:58:55.0495 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3F63970:01C6064F] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1431 Lines: 24 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > I thought more people knew about all this. Forcing (or even just > encouraging) people to use loadable modules is just horrible. I personally > run a kernel with no modules at all: it makes for a simpler bootup, and in > some situations (embedded) it has both security and size advantages. > Linus, I'm glad you said that and I have to second that opinion. On our current product, we compile everything we need into the kernel; we don't use Alsa as modules at all. Our system is "embedded" as far as the user is concerned (though in many ways is just a general purpose computer running a custom stripped down distribution), and the monolithic kernel is critical to our boot speed (under 1 minute till all services are running) and filesystem size. In addition, it makes maintenance and porting much easier: Step 1 - reconfigure and recompile the kernel; Step 2 - put bzImage in our update tarball. Easy. I can't imagine what a pain it would be to have to "install" the modules in our filesystem image. Thankfully, we've never had to deal with this sort of failure; all of our Alsa drivers and services have been well behaved (mostly). - Steve - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/