Received: by 2002:a25:c593:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id v141csp276812ybe; Tue, 3 Sep 2019 22:41:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxbH7ZLi7iC1iS5MKGqAEzrVhm6ni0mIA62b/9GgH5FFYCE9t7DyC7B7tqozucWsQHSojJ3 X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:ad88:: with SMTP id s8mr3001650pjq.53.1567575703025; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 22:41:43 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1567575703; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=oLFc2dCWggLVIh1n8GkOQQtsZ9csb3Ci8x8yVFdqzbI3uRKaVXCspYaIaPpDBWzg47 W+rm714BSzIwjY2fK2IYsnvFLK26OEUNNDY496mGUJD8ztjN6Spzw6/7hrGw5EZE6TVI tEPJWYUiGspNlVbp2yt1HMlONqPufWtQF9WAvb4Y05R5m4HtBJmBE4k0bopamL9ogPM2 cCblypmFSTjJoaooJFy0aq4YyhPSvYwmFrGrIULnLTcdfB+eemziHgILQeX+C5JInKdT pxLgKDvM6aCqa8hU1pxBlnsgRymGlet2kNUk9juGV8jIgMKIvkzCwlgKcWdl6sAFH0Is eV4A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=G+24OF9Lx5iUBu/WRLmCT7ZFrT1IyXVRM002aJSadXQ=; b=R5yr+fhLor/hp8Rhrh9n9GE5ztnCUMbU/Q+epqXGHRm2tCt69JW6wjW5LJngLPz23F qmLyUd98isB5ynpUEZ4dIMvpPCw1THUAOvG4X2bTDIHUwh7hOCLWITCdM+JBtkr3u2s0 rKZvW+rARuxghgK5LOBJpSQCRcTdQLSkh8szVzOQnHtxfrsbDa0MANs9EF9++DSLkC2o CToiG7FmCPC8kMkGFVxHSdfrywvrTPIzhwnbewESIrZmVY2iXKqKnGImxurXQQFZW7uo VlPauCij/mlBuWCMPd+1s+zc43UeInOEbmMR2zAgwhx2JXzlCAYYeV3mh1hP2ZvH5n3v 51GQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a2si1559362pjk.63.2019.09.03.22.41.27; Tue, 03 Sep 2019 22:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728563AbfIDFkH (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 4 Sep 2019 01:40:07 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:51398 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726045AbfIDFkH (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Sep 2019 01:40:07 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E7CADC4; Wed, 4 Sep 2019 05:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 07:40:04 +0200 From: Michal Hocko To: Tetsuo Handa Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , David Rientjes , LKML Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, oom: disable dump_tasks by default Message-ID: <20190904054004.GA3838@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20190903144512.9374-1-mhocko@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed 04-09-19 05:52:43, Tetsuo Handa wrote: > On 2019/09/03 23:45, Michal Hocko wrote: > > It's primary purpose is > > to help analyse oom victim selection decision. > > I disagree, for I use the process list for understanding what / how many > processes are consuming what kind of memory (without crashing the system) > for anomaly detection purpose. Although we can't dump memory consumed by > e.g. file descriptors, disabling dump_tasks() loose that clue, and is > problematic for me. Does anything really prevent you from enabling this by sysctl though? Or do you claim that this is a general usage pattern and therefore the default change is not acceptable or do you want a changelog to be updated? -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs