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Peter Anvin" , Andy Lutomirski , =?UTF-8?Q?Jirka_Hladk=C3=BD?= , =?UTF-8?B?SmnFmcOtIFZvesOhcg==?= , X86 ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 6:10 AM Joel Fernandes wrote: > > I wonder if this distinction of "tracepoint" being non-ABI can be documented > somewhere. I would be happy to do that if there is a place for the same. I > really want some general "policy" in the kernel on where we draw a line in > the sand with respect to tracepoints and ABI :). It's been discussed millions times. tracepoints are not abi. Example: android folks started abusing tracepoints inside bpf core and we _deleted_ them. Same thing can be done with _any_ tracepoint. Do not abuse them and stop the fud about abi.