Received: by 2002:a25:c593:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id v141csp1033793ybe; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzx9DKwrzvkPrkdjyzVzJDoQZ43zVNm3LUPeBM4Ic7ZVW3G4faqLOBBMUfPWLKN5c7Cs0Nw X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8e08:: with SMTP id c8mr857475pfr.238.1567700360080; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1567700360; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=0wsLzekkxdml4jAUaaK2Urfz6+eJuReP1ZrsPWfwC4LY26/bP0VkBqkWuyyHXO+rSy krvnanlTX/x8S5coim8BfjKoZJ6cTEKeA8ExNNrfErbDFAn/l9jFOcQDOVsiw03E+FpF xqaCcMqo4FKczXDsaN8JulOThyNI0sauL+5HrZ5hEyur+ckmKUTaV55STyks3q424flB VQi/uBqLJZ/aSjSJl9I/jlvk+aJ0eRieQy+3LRcK51oh0ai38MlY9jYHRUEdTMZiWn/W tu0h/l3StuoHAmLCOg7ZcKZxULAYAudpWJEU/1hY/9jGB7WOkpnlSeRzZWAiSc76cKP5 kY1w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=GNn45Q3eSzghmxlSVLWWY05FXaO5yOCYfb4Gp/ROFhE=; b=cJXsL+5XolaTQ7kRTPf75ARb34TCwwY8zZqxJg1JTnS+tJFK2Iz+Njx+fav31KqbUJ G3EJKQfwYSIgTeAZ6M/KmmPT281EdMAAKBs2aroLgapoKxcUQB8lBxmRSZteNVAVW9+a hEEaxRHu/1M1gsNqxNkkqdSgFEGBWyAaGpA3oVfJ3jJ9IoYqLel92wcBFaCF80aGZCip gDZ0GpkkKts0fvOtC8fqSuy9C/0OpWPasZxM1IN2Y38g6bGQfAfE8CC0aG00jtiveRS7 ERt5lMT35TZ40fUa1WbLgfoxHPGZSbTgeoN02XCX+49MGcwx8/hlT9f4y2qYwwmAvJDr m+tw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r9si2433041plo.104.2019.09.05.09.19.04; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727097AbfIENcG (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:32:06 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.110.172]:45264 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726097AbfIENcG (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:32:06 -0400 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5317328; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com (e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.194.52]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86B203F67D; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 06:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 14:32:01 +0100 From: Qais Yousef To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Patrick Bellasi , Subhra Mazumdar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, steven.sistare@oracle.com, dhaval.giani@oracle.com, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net, parth@linux.ibm.com Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/9] sched,cgroup: Add interface for latency-nice Message-ID: <20190905133200.4w4cupgxgeym3l2k@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com> References: <20190830174944.21741-1-subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com> <20190830174944.21741-2-subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com> <20190905083127.GA2332@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <87r24v2i14.fsf@arm.com> <20190905104616.GD2332@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190905111346.2w6kuqrdvaqvgilu@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com> <20190905113002.GK2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <87ftlb2cq6.fsf@arm.com> <20190905114802.GN2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190905114802.GN2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171215 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 09/05/19 13:48, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 12:40:01PM +0100, Patrick Bellasi wrote: > > Right, although I think behaviours could still be exported but via a > > different and configurable interface, using thresholds. > > I would try _really_ hard to avoid pinning down behaviour. The more you > do that, the less you can change. While I agree with that but I find there's a contradiction between not 'pinning down behavior' and 'easy and clear way to bias latency sensitive from end user's perspective'. Maybe we should protect this with a kconfig + experimental tag until trial and error show the best way forward? -- Qais Yousef