Received: by 2002:a25:c593:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id v141csp4738883ybe; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 13:52:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxLPH3e+APbqHcqqO0tZIqv92E8VviudSWa/K1ltkO5MHCX7mIY4g87lBe05IjsT4xWLaTh X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:b11:: with SMTP id bm17mr26608856edb.31.1568062341882; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 13:52:21 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1568062341; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=fSzB4HfpSQnMR5SgYHx48nmqR4XX9p07AX0dvaoc7x7OyOe2TWNPw1DjFqUcHSomxB lRI3XcKwOIep7l6VBZi/bvliY5dP9YHwYUfyfyztoLp90ExIgle2nN7d99dkT5mbDpe1 U3VSuXuMG941tbzn49O8Ge5LVYMoA+qaVPAZEQuiTwA2RUXCzNASSIWYldAzq6bwLgsU HeYJ7o/F2cShzECJ09TLx1wSddpCjquwEQELMkW8XbWBMYNHHB7rRWTAxG6hMMf7lfnF 4++dE59wsEgWSnL4QxIEM4bLHv11bH6w+scLdGGzK0K3wC8YGs4Ob5DysLdAcntix75/ eI9Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=9cyJ55pYzUc31eWJqrykDR5BzgD30CwVgRQv6DKMVvQ=; b=bz+A79nn4oqq0PWvaFvPggQ9OyEZC84rUEwd5gcmvKq8Lqm3MvHdT8ixx3iMdd7WUL MW4wvSOl8C/Koi2KfITgyzt6RnYOp92LIK09GHT3yHYy8PtcL5RtACfif5VmHUAxaWUL py+s0j4ABda7kW119Xd5jQmT1kBbw38bL/E3og1doQV3NiK+83XefVFvPxB0xtSOwMuH I66cE6RqFLpIlmZsWRbW5sW/xhlvIgEa7t6eHuRUjd9dPcskvpncMFEW+CaHPznKoUxP GRKKqYJeyq4SCwn4TNAauH8sQc9NSk64bt8+/fnScc+VaBnFpR8Xs5vrpv+VJ9cAQXm3 gfgA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b33si8915771edc.265.2019.09.09.13.51.48; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 13:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728104AbfIIGWP (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 02:22:15 -0400 Received: from helcar.hmeau.com ([216.24.177.18]:32804 "EHLO fornost.hmeau.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728039AbfIIGWP (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 02:22:15 -0400 Received: from gwarestrin.arnor.me.apana.org.au ([192.168.0.7]) by fornost.hmeau.com with smtp (Exim 4.89 #2 (Debian)) id 1i7D3C-0006NS-Ao; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:21:23 +1000 Received: by gwarestrin.arnor.me.apana.org.au (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:21:11 +1000 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:21:11 +1000 From: Herbert Xu To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, tglx@linutronix.de, joel@joelfernandes.org, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, rostedt@goodmis.org, valentin.schneider@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@linux.ibm.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, will.deacon@arm.com, dhowells@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Fix: trace sched switch start/stop racy updates Message-ID: <20190909062111.GA14572@gondor.apana.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190820135612.GS2332@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> X-Newsgroups: apana.lists.os.linux.kernel User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > Paulmck actually has an example of that somewhere; ISTR that particular > case actually got fixed by GCC, but I'd really _love_ for some compiler > people (both GCC and LLVM) to state that their respective compilers will > not do load/store tearing for machine word sized load/stores. > > Without this written guarantee (which supposedly was in older GCC > manuals but has since gone missing), I'm loathe to rely on it. IIRC in that case gcc actually broke atomic writes even with a volatile keyword. So even WRITE_ONCE wouldn't have saved us. Cheers, -- Email: Herbert Xu Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt