Subject: Re: recommended mail clients [was] [PATCH] ati-agp suspend/resume
	support (try 2)
From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Jaco Kroon <jaco@kroon.co.za>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:54:00 -0500
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On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:35 +0000, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> On Monday 26 December 2005 14:38, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 10:55 +0200, Jaco Kroon wrote:
> > > Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > Your email client did some nasty word wrapping here. I guess the way
> > > > to proceed is try #3, this time add my ACK and Cc: akpm...
> > >
> > > Right, which clients is recommended for this type of work - mozilla is
> > > just not doing it for me any more.  I've heard some decent things about
> > > mutt, any other recomendations?
> > >
> > > I've mailed off the patch now using mailx but that isn't going to be an
> > > option in the long run.
> >
> > I use pine and evolution.  Pine is text based and great when I ssh into
> > my machine to work.  Evolution is slow, but plays well with pine and it
> > handles things needed for LKML very well. (the drop down menu "Normal"
> > may be changed to "Preformat", which allows of inserting text files
> > "as-is").
> 
> Dare I say it, KMail has also been doing the Right Thing for a long time. It 
> will only line wrap things that you insert by typing; pastes are left 
> untouched.

It seems that of all the popular mail clients only Thunderbird has this
problem.  AFAICT it's impossible to make it DTRT with inline patches and
even if it is the fact that most users get it wrong points to a serious
usability/UI issue.

Would a patch to add "Don't use Thunderbird/Mozilla Mail" to
SubmittingPatches be accepted?  Then we can point the Mozilla developers
at it (they have shown zero interest in fixing the problem so far) and
hopefully this will light a fire under someone.

Lee

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