Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751177AbVL3AcV (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:32:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751178AbVL3AcV (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:32:21 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:21991 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751177AbVL3AcV (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:32:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:32:01 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: "Jeff V. Merkey" cc: Dave Jones , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: userspace breakage In-Reply-To: <43B4774F.7030703@wolfmountaingroup.com> Message-ID: References: <1135798495.2935.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051228212313.GA4388@elte.hu> <20051228214845.GA7859@elte.hu> <20051228201150.b6cfca14.akpm@osdl.org> <20051229073259.GA20177@elte.hu> <20051229202852.GE12056@redhat.com> <20051229224103.GF12056@redhat.com> <43B453CA.9090005@wolfmountaingroup.com> <43B46078.1080805@wolfmountaingroup.com> <43B4774F.7030703@wolfmountaingroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1123 Lines: 31 On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > The fact that Oracle and IBM support apps on Linux are Freeloading? Baloney! Jeff, give it a rest. Oracle and IBM haven't been complaining, have they? Oracle mostly does user-space stuff (that doesn't change), and has been pretty good about their Oracle-fs too - they're even actively discussing "git" issues on the git mailing list, and asking for help, and just generally being good members of the community. And IBM engineers are part of the people who change internal kernel interfaces in order to make it work better for them. Pretty much the ONLY people who ever complain about those internal kernel interfaces changing are the free-loaders. It's hard for them, because they don't want to play according to the rules. Tough. Watch me not care: [ Linus sits in his chair, patently not caring ] See? Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/