Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932209AbVL3PY7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:24:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932214AbVL3PY7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:24:59 -0500 Received: from c-67-177-35-222.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([67.177.35.222]:59295 "EHLO ns1.utah-nac.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932209AbVL3PY7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:24:59 -0500 Message-ID: <43B54B5A.4050400@wolfmountaingroup.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:59:38 -0700 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040510 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernd Petrovitsch Cc: Linus Torvalds , Dave Jones , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: userspace breakage References: <1135798495.2935.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051228212313.GA4388@elte.hu> <20051228214845.GA7859@elte.hu> <20051228201150.b6cfca14.akpm@osdl.org> <20051229073259.GA20177@elte.hu> <20051229202852.GE12056@redhat.com> <20051229224103.GF12056@redhat.com> <43B453CA.9090005@wolfmountaingroup.com> <43B46078.1080805@wolfmountaingroup.com> <43B4774F.7030703@wolfmountaingroup.com> <1135941429.3342.19.camel@gimli.at.home> In-Reply-To: <1135941429.3342.19.camel@gimli.at.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1423 Lines: 46 Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 16:54 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: >[....] > > >>The fact that Oracle and IBM support apps on Linux are Freeloading? Baloney! >>Linux benefits by having the choice of al these applications. >> >> > >Do they have binary-only kernel modules or user-space apps? > > > >>(P.S. I have heard through the grapevine IBM is putting emphasis on AIX >>as their platform and are actively telling this to large customers -- >>can you verify this and are you aware of it) >> >> > >Not knwoing any inner IBM things, the simple commercial explanation is: >If a customer buys AIX, he is forced to buy the hardware at IBM. And IBM >is a hardware selling (and consulting) company anyways, it never was a >"software company". > > The lawsuit is impacting their sales finally. They are telling this to folks they are moving off Linux long term. I don't know if it's a smoke screen due to the lawsuit or an actual technical business decision. I would guess they are making a back door to pull out if the lawsuit goes south. Looks like it might be based on filings on the 12/22 but I don't know for certain. Jeff > Bernd > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/