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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:47:29 +0100
From: Mark v Wolher <trilight@ns666.com>
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To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
CC: Folkert van Heusden <folkert@vanheusden.com>,
       Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: system keeps freezing once every 24 hours / random apps	crashing
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Lee Revell wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 22:30 +0100, Mark v Wolher wrote:
> 
>>Mark v Wolher wrote:
>>
>>>Mark v Wolher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Folkert van Heusden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Hmm, i disabled MSI in the kernel, irq-balancing is on in the kernel,
>>>>>>and after a restart with irqbalance i see the cpu's show numbers !
>>>>>>I guess MSI was preventing them ? But does that means because of MSI
>>>>>>that performance was lower in some way ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>did you also restart with only irqbalance activated?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Folkert van Heusden
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, when MSI was disabled i had irq-balancing in the kernel on, i
>>>>rebooted without the irqbalance daemon and it showed no reaction on the
>>>>cpu's. When i enabled the irqbalance daemon then i got finally reaction
>>>
>>>>from the cpu's.
>>>
>>>>I'm also curious if this will solve those random freezes...which somehow
>>>>i suspect have to do with the tvcard and maybe having MSI on.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>:( just got a total freeze, number 2 today. This time i noticed the
>>>mouse started to go very slow and 2 seconds later all was frozen.
>>>
>>>Maybe it's because of vmware ... i will not use vmware and see how it goes.
>>>-
>>
>>
>>Some new info, i just noticed this in the logs:
>>
>>
>>Dec 30 22:21:24 localhost kernel: bttv0: OCERR @ 1fde0000,bits: HSYNC
>>OFLOW FBUS OCERR*
>>Dec 30 22:21:24 localhost last message repeated 5 times
>>Dec 30 22:21:24 localhost kernel: bttv0: timeout: drop=0
>>irq=41296/41296, risc=1fde001c, bits: HSYNC OFLOW
>>Dec 30 22:21:24 localhost kernel: bttv0: reset, reinitialize
>>Dec 30 22:21:24 localhost kernel: bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 . ok
>>
>>
>>But vmware is not active at this moment, i'll not use vmware and see if
>>a freeze occurs, i'll test up to 24 hours.
>>
>>I can swear it might have to do with the tvcard with tv on and vmware at
>>the same time also active. Or maybe just 1 of them. I'm even considering
>>to buy tomorrow a new tvcard and see if it makes any difference.
> 
> 
> It does not matter whether VMWare is active at the moment.  Any bug
> report where a binary module has been loaded, active or not, is tainted.
> 
> Can you reproduce with a 100% clean kernel?
> 
> Lee
> 

Hi Lee,

But unloading all vmware modules should be good enough ? And how about
the binary module of nvidia ? It's active ofcourse else i'd not be able
to use all the features i normally use.

Eitherway, several kernels back also made no difference for this issue.

So right now, i'm leaning on the experience i have with working with
this system and trying to isolate things i suspect, before i go to more
radical steps :)

And again, under windows 2k server, xp pro, redhat enterprise and
freebsd i never had these issues.


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