Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751301AbVLaE7u (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:59:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751303AbVLaE7u (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:59:50 -0500 Received: from dial169-116.awalnet.net ([213.184.169.116]:42246 "EHLO raad.intranet") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751301AbVLaE7t (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:59:49 -0500 From: Al Boldi To: Alan Cox Subject: Re: [PATCH] strict VM overcommit accounting for 2.4.32/2.4.33-pre1 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:59:02 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: barryn@pobox.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200512302306.28667.a1426z@gawab.com> <1135990502.28365.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1135990502.28365.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512310759.02962.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1326 Lines: 36 Alan Cox wrote: > On Gwe, 2005-12-30 at 23:06 +0300, Al Boldi wrote: > > > +3 - (NEW) paranoid overcommit The total address space commit > > > + for the system is not permitted to exceed swap. The machine > > > + will never kill a process accessing pages it has mapped > > > + except due to a bug (ie report it!) > > > > This one isn't in 2.6, which is critical for a stable system. > > Actually it is > > In the 2.4 case we took "50% RAM + swap" as the safe sane world 'never > OOM kill' and to all intents and purposes it works. We also had a 100% > paranoia mode. > > When it was ported to 2.6 (not by me) whoever did it very sensibly made > the percentage tunable and removed "mode 3" since its mode 2 0% ram and > can be set that way. Only, doesn't this imply that you cannot control overcommit unless backed by swap? i.e Without swap the kernel cannot use all of ram, because it would overcommit no-matter what, thus invoking OOM-killer. Which raises an important question: What's overcommit to do with limiting access to physical RAM? Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/