Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751053AbVLaIdi (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:33:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751179AbVLaIdi (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:33:38 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:48560 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751053AbVLaIdh (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:33:37 -0500 Subject: Re: userspace breakage From: Arjan van de Ven To: Andrew Morton Cc: Steven Rostedt , torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davej@redhat.com, jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com In-Reply-To: <20051230154954.47be93a3.akpm@osdl.org> References: <1135798495.2935.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051228212313.GA4388@elte.hu> <20051228214845.GA7859@elte.hu> <20051228201150.b6cfca14.akpm@osdl.org> <20051229073259.GA20177@elte.hu> <20051229202852.GE12056@redhat.com> <20051229224103.GF12056@redhat.com> <43B453CA.9090005@wolfmountaingroup.com> <43B46078.1080805@wolfmountaingroup.com> <1135974176.6039.71.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051230154954.47be93a3.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:33:29 +0100 Message-Id: <1136018010.2901.2.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.0.4 on pentafluge.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (-2.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 927 Lines: 23 On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 15:49 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 16:10 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > Stuff outside the kernel is almost always either (a) experimental stuff > > > that just isn't ready to be merged or (b) tries to avoid the GPL. > > > > (c) So damn specialized that it's not worth even trying to merge. > > Or drivers for highly specialised/customised hardware. that's not really an excuse.. there's drivers in the tree for which only 4 boards ever existed. There still is value in having those in the tree, if only for the "other side" of the API to be able to see usage patterns... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/