Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932424AbWACSYo (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:24:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932423AbWACSYo (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:24:44 -0500 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:37785 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932420AbWACSYn (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:24:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal From: Lee Revell To: Andi Kleen Cc: Alistair John Strachan , Adrian Bunk , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200601031452.10855.ak@suse.de> References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <200601031347.19328.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <200601031452.10855.ak@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:24:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1136312678.24703.56.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.5.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 989 Lines: 23 On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 14:52 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Tuesday 03 January 2006 14:47, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > > > It strikes me that it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem. Vendors are still > > releasing applications on Linux that support only OSS, partly due to > > ignorance, but mostly because ALSA's OSS compatibility layer allows them to > > lazily ignore the ALSA API and target all cards, old and new. > > As long as it works why is that a bad thing? OSS API works just fine > for most sound needs. If you want to do high end sound you can still > use ALSA. OSS can't do software mixing of multiple audio streams, it requires a sound server to do this. So IMHO the OSS approach causes more bloat on the desktop. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/