Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964780AbWACU3y (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:29:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964781AbWACU3y (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:29:54 -0500 Received: from mail.kroah.org ([69.55.234.183]:46212 "EHLO perch.kroah.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964780AbWACU3x (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:29:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:28:53 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Dave Jones , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: userspace breakage Message-ID: <20060103202853.GF12617@kroah.com> References: <20051228212313.GA4388@elte.hu> <20051228214845.GA7859@elte.hu> <20051228201150.b6cfca14.akpm@osdl.org> <20051229073259.GA20177@elte.hu> <20051229202852.GE12056@redhat.com> <20051229224103.GF12056@redhat.com> <20051229230307.GB24452@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051229230307.GB24452@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1214 Lines: 28 On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 06:03:07PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 02:56:16PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > That really isn't acceptable. Breaking user space - even things that are > > "close" to the kernel like udev scripts and alsa-lib, really is NOT a good > > idea. > > > > If you cannot upgrade a kernel without ugrading some user package, that > > should be considered a real bug and a regression. > > I'm glad you agree. I've decided to try something different once 2.6.16 > is out. Every day, I'm going to push the -git snapshot of the day into > a testing branch for Fedora users. (Normally, only rawhide[1] users > get to test kernel-de-jour, and this always has the latest userspace, so > we don't notice problems until a kernel point release and the stable > distro gets an update). Ah, nice idea, I'll try to set up the same thing for Gentoo's kernels. Hopefully the expanded coverage will help... thanks, greg k-h - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/