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Date:   Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:08:52 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To:     Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
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        Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu-refcount: Use normal instead of RCU-sched"
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On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 01:22:53PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> This is a revert of commit
>    a4244454df129 ("percpu-refcount: use RCU-sched insted of normal RCU")
> 
> which claims the only reason for using RCU-sched is
>    "rcu_read_[un]lock() … are slightly more expensive than preempt_disable/enable()"
> 
> and
>     "As the RCU critical sections are extremely short, using sched-RCU
>     shouldn't have any latency implications."
> 
> The problem with using RCU-sched here is that it disables preemption and
> the callback must not acquire any sleeping locks like spinlock_t on
> PREEMPT_RT which is the case with some of the users.

Looks good in general, but changing to RCU-preempt does not change the
fact that the callbacks execute with bh disabled.  There is a newish
queue_rcu_work() that invokes a workqueue handler after a grace period.

Or am I missing your point here?

							Thanx, Paul

> Using rcu_read_lock() on PREEMPTION=n kernels is not any different
> compared to rcu_read_lock_sched(). On PREEMPTION=y kernels there are
> already performance issues due to additional preemption points.
> Looking at the code, the rcu_read_lock() is just an increment and unlock
> is almost just a decrement unless there is something special to do. Both
> are functions while disabling preemption is inlined.
> Doing a small benchmark, the minimal amount of time required was mostly
> the same. The average time required was higher due to the higher MAX
> value (which could be preemption). With DEBUG_PREEMPT=y it is
> rcu_read_lock_sched() that takes a little longer due to the additional
> debug code.
> 
> Convert back to normal RCU.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> ---
> 
> Benchmark https://breakpoint.cc/percpu_test.patch
> 
>  include/linux/percpu-refcount.h | 16 ++++++++--------
>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/percpu-refcount.h b/include/linux/percpu-refcount.h
> index 7aef0abc194a2..390031e816dcd 100644
> --- a/include/linux/percpu-refcount.h
> +++ b/include/linux/percpu-refcount.h
> @@ -186,14 +186,14 @@ static inline void percpu_ref_get_many(struct percpu_ref *ref, unsigned long nr)
>  {
>  	unsigned long __percpu *percpu_count;
>  
> -	rcu_read_lock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_lock();
>  
>  	if (__ref_is_percpu(ref, &percpu_count))
>  		this_cpu_add(*percpu_count, nr);
>  	else
>  		atomic_long_add(nr, &ref->count);
>  
> -	rcu_read_unlock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_unlock();
>  }
>  
>  /**
> @@ -223,7 +223,7 @@ static inline bool percpu_ref_tryget(struct percpu_ref *ref)
>  	unsigned long __percpu *percpu_count;
>  	bool ret;
>  
> -	rcu_read_lock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_lock();
>  
>  	if (__ref_is_percpu(ref, &percpu_count)) {
>  		this_cpu_inc(*percpu_count);
> @@ -232,7 +232,7 @@ static inline bool percpu_ref_tryget(struct percpu_ref *ref)
>  		ret = atomic_long_inc_not_zero(&ref->count);
>  	}
>  
> -	rcu_read_unlock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_unlock();
>  
>  	return ret;
>  }
> @@ -257,7 +257,7 @@ static inline bool percpu_ref_tryget_live(struct percpu_ref *ref)
>  	unsigned long __percpu *percpu_count;
>  	bool ret = false;
>  
> -	rcu_read_lock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_lock();
>  
>  	if (__ref_is_percpu(ref, &percpu_count)) {
>  		this_cpu_inc(*percpu_count);
> @@ -266,7 +266,7 @@ static inline bool percpu_ref_tryget_live(struct percpu_ref *ref)
>  		ret = atomic_long_inc_not_zero(&ref->count);
>  	}
>  
> -	rcu_read_unlock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_unlock();
>  
>  	return ret;
>  }
> @@ -285,14 +285,14 @@ static inline void percpu_ref_put_many(struct percpu_ref *ref, unsigned long nr)
>  {
>  	unsigned long __percpu *percpu_count;
>  
> -	rcu_read_lock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_lock();
>  
>  	if (__ref_is_percpu(ref, &percpu_count))
>  		this_cpu_sub(*percpu_count, nr);
>  	else if (unlikely(atomic_long_sub_and_test(nr, &ref->count)))
>  		ref->release(ref);
>  
> -	rcu_read_unlock_sched();
> +	rcu_read_unlock();
>  }
>  
>  /**
> -- 
> 2.23.0
>