Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964841AbWACXKz (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:10:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964910AbWACXKd (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:10:33 -0500 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:44305 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S964892AbWACXKL (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:10:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:10:09 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: Jesper Juhl , Takashi Iwai , Olivier Galibert , Alistair John Strachan , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-ID: <20060103231009.GI3831@stusta.de> References: <200601031522.06898.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <20060103160502.GB5262@irc.pl> <200601031629.21765.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <20060103170316.GA12249@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20060103203732.GF5262@irc.pl> <9a8748490601031256x916bddav794fecdcf263fb55@mail.gmail.com> <20060103215654.GH3831@stusta.de> <20060103221314.GB23175@irc.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060103221314.GB23175@irc.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1914 Lines: 50 On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 11:13:14PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:56:54PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > > Well, we keep the compatibility exactly -- OSS drivers don't support > > > > > > software mixing in the kernel, too :) > > > > > > > > > > OSS will support software mixing. In kernel. On NetBSD. > > > > > http://kerneltrap.org/node/4388 > > > > > > > > Why do we need to keep the compatibility with NetBSD? > > > > > > > Software mixing is a really nice feature for people with soundscards > > > that can't do hardware mixing, so if the OSS compatibility could > > > transparently do software mixing for apps using OSS api that would be > > > a very nice extension for a lot of people - I'd say that if NetBSD do > > > that they've got the right idea. > > > > The OSS compatibility in ALSA is only a legacy API for applications not > > yet converted to use the ALSA API. > > OSS is universal cross-unix API. ALSA is Linux-only. How "universal cross-unix" is the OSS API really? Which operating systems besides Linux have a native sound system supporting the OSS API [1]? I know about FreeBSD and partial support in NetBSD. Are there any other [2]? cu Adrian [1] I'm not talking about a port of the commercial OSS to the operating system which has little value for application developers. [2] This is not a rhetorical question, I simply don't know about any other. -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/