Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751780AbWADNSN (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:18:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751778AbWADNSN (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:18:13 -0500 Received: from ganesha.gnumonks.org ([213.95.27.120]:58279 "EHLO ganesha.gnumonks.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751252AbWADNSM (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:18:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:18:05 +0100 From: Harald Welte To: Jamie Lokier Cc: Ben Slusky , Steven Rostedt , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, legal@lists.gnumonks.org, "Robert W. Fuller" , LKML Kernel , Kyle Moffett , info@crossmeta.com Subject: Re: blatant GPL violation of ext2 and reiserfs filesystem drivers Message-ID: <20060104131805.GM4898@sunbeam.de.gnumonks.org> References: <43AACF77.9020206@sbcglobal.net> <496FC071-3999-4E23-B1A2-1503DCAB65C0@mac.com> <1135283241.12761.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051223153541.GA13111@paranoiacs.org> <20060104110929.GH4898@sunbeam.de.gnumonks.org> <20060104115422.GA2562@mail.shareable.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huBJOJF9BsF479P6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060104115422.GA2562@mail.shareable.org> User-Agent: mutt-ng devel-20050619 (Debian) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2863 Lines: 74 --huBJOJF9BsF479P6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:54:22AM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: > > > The case here appears to be: > > >=20 > > > * Crossmeta offers "add-on" software as a free download from their web > > > site: . > > > The zip file contains a text file gpl-license.txt, which says that = the > > > add-ons are offered under the terms of the GPL. > > >=20 > > > * User downloads this GPLed software and asks the developer to provide > > > source code. Developer replies that the source code will be provided > > > only to paying customers: > > > . > > >=20 > > > That's baad, m'kay? > >=20 > > This is definitely not acceptable. A written offer must be valid to ANY > > 3RD PARTY. =20 > >=20 > > So it wouldn't even be enough to offer the source code to paying > > customers and those who downloaded the binary code, but actually it must > > be made available to anyone who asks for it. >=20 > Ah, that depends on whether they provided the source code for download > to paying customers at the time those customers downloaded the binary. yes. but the point is (according to reports I have received) that the object code (without source code) was available for download on the crossmeta website.=20 Therefore anyone could have obtained a binary copy with no included source code, and thus the 'any third party' clause implicitly comes into effect. As soon as you've even only once given a copy of the executable code without at the same time including the full corresponding source code, "any third party" is entitled to obtain a copy of the source code. --=20 - Harald Welte http://gnumonks.org/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) --huBJOJF9BsF479P6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDu8sNXaXGVTD0i/8RAtmxAJ979JpxdWHjCxD6TJpMMDuczuB7QQCfTujp uuhFz/4SJV9rCGcARqiVU90= =i6K4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huBJOJF9BsF479P6-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/