Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751785AbWADNVp (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:21:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751788AbWADNVo (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:21:44 -0500 Received: from csl2r.consultronics.on.ca ([204.138.93.16]:9093 "EHLO csl2.consultronics.on.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751785AbWADNVn (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:21:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:21:39 -0500 From: Greg Louis To: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-ID: <20060104132139.GA5753@athame.dynamicro.on.ca> Mail-Followup-To: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <9a8748490601031256x916bddav794fecdcf263fb55@mail.gmail.com> <20060103215654.GH3831@stusta.de> <20060103221314.GB23175@irc.pl> <20060103231009.GI3831@stusta.de> <20060104000344.GJ3831@stusta.de> <20060104010123.GK3831@stusta.de> <1136364634.22598.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136364634.22598.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Dynamicro Consulting Limited Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2024 Lines: 41 On 20060104 (Wed) at 0850:34 +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > On Mer, 2006-01-04 at 03:51 +0100, Tomasz K??oczko wrote: > > Be compliant with OSS specyfication allow save many time on applications > > development level by consume (in good sense) time spend on this > > applications by *BSD, Solaris and other systems developers (even on not > > open source applications). > > Both Solaris and FreeBSD contain Linux emulation code so in that sense > they admitted 'defeat' long ago. > > > valuable functionalities in usable/simpler form for joe-like users .. > > remember: sound support in Linux isn't for data centers/big-ass-machines :) > > And distributions nowdays ship with ALSA by default, which is giving > users far better audio timing behaviour, mixing they want, digital and > analogue 5.1 outputs. OSS really isn't ideal for serious "end user" > applications like video playback > Ok, so I'm not serious :) just wanna do fairly standard audio things. - ALSA doesn't (AFAIK, haven't checked for a few months) support my old Audiotrix sound card -- bye, machine 1 - ALSA can't be persuaded (not by me, anyway) to drive my VIA ac97_codec onboard sound hardware -- everything works fine except unmuting ;) -- bye, machine 2 - ALSA does suport my i810_audio ac97_codec laptop, but so does OSS, equally well (for my unsophisticated needs) and with a far less elephantine footprint in memory. -- strike 3, ALSA out. So even if sound support in Linux _is_ for "big-ass" studio work, it would be nice if little guys didn't get abandoned along the way, IMHO. -- | G r e g L o u i s | gpg public key: 0x400B1AA86D9E3E64 | | http://www.bgl.nu/~glouis | (on my website or any keyserver) | | http://wecanstopspam.org in signatures helps fight junk email. | - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/