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Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:03:56 +0100
From: Patrizio Bassi <patrizio.bassi@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal
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Greg Louis ha scritto:
> On 20060104 (Wed) at 0850:34 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
>>On Mer, 2006-01-04 at 03:51 +0100, Tomasz K??oczko wrote:
>>
>>>Be compliant with OSS specyfication allow save many time on applications 
>>>development level by consume (in good sense) time spend on this 
>>>applications by *BSD, Solaris and other systems developers (even on not 
>>>open source applications).
>>
>>Both Solaris and FreeBSD contain Linux emulation code so in that sense
>>they admitted 'defeat' long ago.
>>
>>
>>>valuable functionalities in usable/simpler form for joe-like users .. 
>>>remember: sound support in Linux isn't for data centers/big-ass-machines :)
>>
>>And distributions nowdays ship with ALSA by default, which is giving
>>users far better audio timing behaviour, mixing they want, digital and
>>analogue 5.1 outputs. OSS really isn't ideal for serious "end user"
>>applications like video playback
>>
> 
> Ok, so I'm not serious :) just wanna do fairly standard audio things.
> 
> - ALSA doesn't (AFAIK, haven't checked for a few months) support my old
>   Audiotrix sound card -- bye, machine 1
> - ALSA can't be persuaded (not by me, anyway) to drive my VIA
>   ac97_codec onboard sound hardware -- everything works fine except
>   unmuting ;) -- bye, machine 2
> - ALSA does suport my i810_audio ac97_codec laptop, but so does OSS,
>   equally well (for my unsophisticated needs) and with a far less
>   elephantine footprint in memory. -- strike 3, ALSA out.
> 
> So even if sound support in Linux _is_ for "big-ass" studio work, it
> would be nice if little guys didn't get abandoned along the way, IMHO.
> 

if you miss some drivers, you can add them (or ask for that) written in
alsa driver.

and if your chipset works with alsa as with oss that's not a good
motivation not to remove OSS.

think about audigy2 users :)

ps. i've an old ens1370 card..so that's not me

	Patrizio

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Patrizio Bassi
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