Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965244AbWADRdL (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:33:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965243AbWADRdL (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:33:11 -0500 Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk ([213.162.97.75]:18346 "EHLO mail.metronet.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965235AbWADRdI (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:33:08 -0500 From: Alistair John Strachan To: Jaroslav Kysela Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:31:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9 Cc: Andi Kleen , Joern Nettingsmeier , Tomasz K?oczko , Adrian Bunk , Olivier Galibert , Tomasz Torcz , Jan Engelhardt , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <20060104123538.GE7222@wotan.suse.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601041731.18344.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1403 Lines: 34 On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:41, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > this is like whining about the oh so complex networking infrastructure > > > and iptables and constantly reminiscing how simple it used to be to set > > > up a modem on /dev/ttyS0. > > > > Can be nearly all CONFIGured out. With the removal of the sane > > sound drivers that would be impossible though. > > The code reduction is possible also for the ALSA midlevel code. > For example, removing the verbose /proc support might save some bytes and > so on. But can more be done? Andi's not pointed anything out in particular (unless I am mistaken), but could more of ALSA be configurable, even if it is at the expense of userspace API features? As has already been pointed out, individual ALSA drivers with comparable features tend themselves to be smaller than the original OSS ones. It's the ALSA infrastructure that comes at a cost, and surely not all if it is mandatory. -- Cheers, Alistair. 'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.' Third year Computer Science undergraduate. 1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/