Received: by 2002:a5b:505:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id o5csp3117282ybp; Sun, 6 Oct 2019 05:11:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzmgISvW7uAuxH9YJfHbI7h6adfY8Dlpc4Vu5/1XgCezFJyZtgg5cLBn2AsnP+gkp39aY2W X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:95cf:: with SMTP id n15mr19559710ejy.183.1570363910053; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 05:11:50 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1570363910; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=fE+1vLZaL/ywLDJisnbI4sHRG/OmzAj20VqMYRi/CAFssJ/A0NewN+tqB2BNsnqe2g jA8rvGOYoxSUG2wEWcjRi6GbUWjUIOxithDFHDD9ErFl+n350wvLqfZ8O1A7iB6Zb3Oy 9ZcQjsQmx0oYmfg3eZWZQkdoSJ063eQ17YsLIzzULbdiYCt38a23/QPVb2yeTq0sHaH+ 96ZTG3NaWRw3s8IVNOMbDdQCRfsFaKNHkOpVNBqcfCbpEHy9BQ8s2uXRgiPYgTrIIzW5 cj/ILFqXSJ4Hn8NcHGec5FkqHxmsZb2Te5PcBiWbDtLepsBeMd8Twom39NgT1vL+45ox m4pg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=XZCWf1Y36HIT3XOrSB7Owk2UlCDRGd+bpJc6fRIl4hk=; b=U3IH9A/0hZY42CVJmZTJ7wrrim3UADxm57uB42ceA5U8SRMsgOoXJd3z7amnAbLh8E 3AAvnbBli/0cGNKpqkpytEamkGUWJqiI0gz2G2QZ9mcqEoK32z296wIMGJdHHQzvlwIg jhZ46+V5Y+XLEb442N64+A5b+JhktiYs15EKc62HGItRxoOpHoKAoTk5FJkY5oXMdJAO kAY1JnhoubSQQJD8Cy4KWQs6MR4nLFdGHd1Z2/NK4NTLg5c0pNn7YcyMY16fZhjwqLPm +eiDIZ3NiKlIAde56zo4QxHCwNPSdiOXOe8yfYiB0NNnS6xLcKAE+W/TuKMJ70oR1pIw 3aHA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c14si4492289eda.8.2019.10.06.05.11.11; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 05:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726360AbfJFMHp (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 6 Oct 2019 08:07:45 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:45490 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726275AbfJFMHo (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Oct 2019 08:07:44 -0400 Received: by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix, from userid 512) id E7B8980486; Sun, 6 Oct 2019 14:07:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 14:07:42 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Linus Torvalds Cc: "Ahmed S. Darwish" , Thomas Gleixner , a.darwish@linutronix.de, LKML , Theodore Ts'o , Nicholas Mc Guire , the arch/x86 maintainers , Andy Lutomirski , Kees Cook Subject: Re: x86/random: Speculation to the rescue Message-ID: <20191006120742.GE24605@amd> References: <20191001161448.GA1918@darwi-home-pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! > Entropy really is hard. It's hard to generate, and it's hard to measure. It is not hard to generate... not on PC, not on most machines. "find /" can generate plenty of entropy... certainly on any PC. But it does not work everywhere, and we may need other methods of generating entropy on some very embedded systems... So IMO we shold have generic driver for PC-like machines and specific drivers for the embedded stuff that needs it. Best regards, Pavel --=20 (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html --BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAl2Z2Q4ACgkQMOfwapXb+vLJmwCgsFCfHfVV/UV8/H1RKW3Bb2qW tgcAoIHZHNpLto8l4KAkxCjjogABil9Q =6JAW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD--