Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932068AbWAEP0P (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:26:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932072AbWAEP0P (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:26:15 -0500 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.92.206]:57995 "EHLO uproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932068AbWAEP0O (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:26:14 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UqPkmumfFttZ7guw2KNIxr5A0LU3w8gZjauZJpqWs8txcTWgg/gM2qrvaAOIBR0VxbxGxRw0BwyICjOumgHMcnV6JShwS+kZFK8tjqOm5PPCLA9dJZi5ogPgUn/S5xRcsuKLc9AaZpY+crDMh8KgrUrFLXmnmaIfcA8K6KPy9Kw= Message-ID: <43BD3AAC.9000104@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:26:36 +0500 From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux Kernel Mailing List CC: Olivier Galibert , Heikki Orsila , Alistair John Strachan Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity References: <20060105140155.GC757@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi> <20060105145101.GB28611@dspnet.fr.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20060105145101.GB28611@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 926 Lines: 21 Olivier Galibert wrote: > Make simple things simple, guys. Sorry for hijacking the thread, but it is very true. ALSA is just too flexible so that the ALSA equivalent (if it indeed exists) of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=339951 cannot be fixed. OSS allows specification of device name, and one can set up udev rules so that e.g. /dev/dsp-creative it is always a symlink to a SB PCI sound card and /dev/dsp-fortemedia is for FM801. Then one can tell xine to play sound through /dev/dsp-fortemedia. ALSA accepts only numbers in its plughw:x,y,z notation, and applications are unfixable when kernel device numbers become random. -- Alexander E. Patrakov - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/