Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751469AbWAEQXU (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:23:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751470AbWAEQXU (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:23:20 -0500 Received: from ns2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:53695 "EHLO mx2.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751469AbWAEQXT (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:23:19 -0500 From: Andi Kleen To: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: Moore's law (was Re: [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:30:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20051222114147.GA18878@elte.hu> <20051225150445.0eae9dd7.akpm@osdl.org> <20051226003313.GB2440@ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20051226003313.GB2440@ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601051631.00146.ak@suse.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 34 On Monday 26 December 2005 01:33, Pavel Machek wrote: [cc list from hell trimmed down] > > Another example: Ingo's VFS stresstest which is hitting i_sem hard: it only > > does ~8000 ops/sec on an 8-way, and it's an artificial microbenchmark which > > is _designed_ to hit that lock hard. So if/when i_sem is converted to a > > mutex, I figure that the benefits to ARM in that workload will be about a > > 0.01% performance increase. ie: about two hours' worth of Moore's law in a > > dopey microbenchmark. Moore's law actually doesn't say anything about performance increases, just about the number of transistors available. > > :-) Expressing performance increases in Moore's hours seems like > neat trick. OTOH I do not think it is valid any more. Single-threaded > performance stopped increasing 2 years ago AFAICS. It's not true. e.g. a 2.6 Ghz FX-57 is significantly faster than the top end CPU you could get 2 years ago. And I'm sure this years CPUs will be still faster than last years. > Plus people are > pushing Linux onto smaller machines, that were unavailable 2 years > ago. Even smaller systems are still getting faster. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/