Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932359AbWAFA6N (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:58:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932362AbWAFA6M (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:58:12 -0500 Received: from ds01.webmacher.de ([213.239.192.226]:15805 "EHLO ds01.webmacher.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932359AbWAFA6K (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:58:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <20060103193736.GG3831@stusta.de> <20060104030034.6b780485.zaitcev@redhat.com> <1136504460.847.91.camel@mindpipe> <4A284096-E889-4E6D-B017-B8241CD72A0D@dalecki.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <942EC96F-580B-4F4C-B019-F38D4964942C@dalecki.de> Cc: Lee Revell , Hannu Savolainen , Takashi Iwai , linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, LKML Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marcin Dalecki Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 01:57:54 +0100 To: Martin Drab X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1220 Lines: 33 On 2006-01-06, at 01:29, Martin Drab wrote: > Because as much as we all don't like it, it is > a realistic fact. There's just NO WAY you can responsibly say about > any > piece software, that it is completely error free. You would be for example surprised to see how complex the software controlling the breaks of a reasonable modern car turns out to be... This is just a technical example running contrary to your "wisdom". In numerical computations you can find reasonable amounts of software which is precisely just that - bug free. There are mathematical proofs running for hundreds of pages, which are just valid. Do you think this kind of guys doesn't ever sit down and write some piece of software to help out well for example in determining some aerodynamics of a plane? Are you assuming this kind of applications is trivial and by virtue of a natural law bug ridden? And by the way: the zero program which has nothing to do is bug free. QED. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/