Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750835AbWAFBYP (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:24:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751097AbWAFBYP (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:24:15 -0500 Received: from warden-p.diginsite.com ([208.29.163.248]:26754 "HELO warden.diginsite.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750835AbWAFBYO (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:24:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:24:01 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@dlang.diginsite.com To: Dave Jones cc: Jan Engelhardt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: oops pauser. In-Reply-To: <20060105103339.GG20809@redhat.com> Message-ID: References: <20060105045212.GA15789@redhat.com> <20060105103339.GG20809@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1486 Lines: 31 On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Dave Jones wrote: > > (*) If the oops is longer than 25 lines, ... you can't even use scrollback > > because scrollback is cleared when you change consoles. X runs by default > > on tty7, and the kernel dumps it somewhere else. (And even if it dumped to > > tty7 directly, you would not see it.) > > What to do about oopses whilst in X has been the subject of much > head-scratching for years now. It's come up at least at the > last two kernel summits, and I'll hazard a guess it'll come up > again this year. The amount of work necessary to make it all > work on both kernel side and X side isn't unsubstantial however, > so I wouldn't count on it working too soon. hmm, if you can hope that someone will grab a camera to report an oops, how about them grabbing a tape recorder/mp3 recorder to record audio from the speaker. it's not fast, but you don't have that much data to output, do it in morse (with the audio explination of what's going to happen first) David Lang -- There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- C.A.R. Hoare - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/