Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932439AbWAFBZ0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:25:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751709AbWAFBZ0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:25:26 -0500 Received: from zlynx.org ([199.45.143.209]:11793 "EHLO 199.45.143.209") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750722AbWAFBZZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:25:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity From: Zan Lynx To: Marcin Dalecki Cc: Lee Revell , Hannu Savolainen , Takashi Iwai , linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, LKML In-Reply-To: <4A284096-E889-4E6D-B017-B8241CD72A0D@dalecki.de> References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <20060103193736.GG3831@stusta.de> <20060104030034.6b780485.zaitcev@redhat.com> <1136504460.847.91.camel@mindpipe> <4A284096-E889-4E6D-B017-B8241CD72A0D@dalecki.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-fuwTEsj+aADdkIJR3NtG" Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:21:49 -0700 Message-Id: <1136510509.9382.24.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1853 Lines: 53 --=-fuwTEsj+aADdkIJR3NtG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 01:14 +0100, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > On 2006-01-06, at 00:40, Lee Revell wrote: > > Hey, interesting, this is exactly what dmix does in userspace. And we > > have not seen any bug reports caused by the concept of userspace =20 > > mixing > > (just implementation bugs like any piece of software). >=20 > This attitude that every kind of software has to have bugs is > blunt idiotic tale-tale bullshit just showing off complete incompetence. >=20 > Does the acronym car-ABS and micro-controller maybe perhaps ring a =20 > bell for you?=20 Funny that you should mention bug-free code and ABS. Just a few months ago, Subaru updated the ABS controller code for the WRX. They sent me the notice in the mail. It was an optional upgrade, the change was only needed to fix some very odd corner cases. =20 The point being that even critical micro-controller software has bugs. Even software that has been mathematically proofed can have bugs. Knuth uses it as a joke: "Beware bugs in the above code. I have proven it correct; I have not actually tried it." It's so funny because it's so true. --=20 Zan Lynx --=-fuwTEsj+aADdkIJR3NtG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDvcYtG8fHaOLTWwgRArPmAKCsDiU38AkUoFRz0Ya/HpTA/GDlSQCgq400 j63fFXfcnLULwCamSEDUTFs= =53Md -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fuwTEsj+aADdkIJR3NtG-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/