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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f43si14263550edf.422.2019.10.14.08.00.48; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 08:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linaro.org header.s=google header.b=C+OAQ9IK; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linaro.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1733061AbfJNO6H (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 14 Oct 2019 10:58:07 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f66.google.com ([209.85.167.66]:41625 "EHLO mail-lf1-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1732606AbfJNO6H (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Oct 2019 10:58:07 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f66.google.com with SMTP id r2so12019672lfn.8 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 07:58:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tkMPQ0LrWyijz11NY5m0dmZYPiuXzrUEUbYC0qMqHT0=; b=C+OAQ9IKKfx8e2rgas2AZ/0OGtlN4cljS5G/pxMlqfJVHoV9hGaOFEZXBC6WZgyz5g 6bQfXmBG1AwfT8bPzH56YybQxmcQ/ojzp4XFbBO2fgPtl2211m1hUna+mID/Ts6vRoNV fP5dmjjtLtkd/JWDSlrMUZM0Gb2CExkVb8loj4Uoej2q98lBhBLnsG0Sgeg2xRyUD5JI CZxxPfWamLz/Jp3UwnStL0Na13rkuarQ2VlpFIHgP7zCvejyFaymFXbasLe54gwTOjl0 UFheRmi8QXQ4TIodN4AkDokdrprbIfbZPgj84p8Ao0G8PONXh5YoGl5LUuJg6T8dFJnm 6Fhw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tkMPQ0LrWyijz11NY5m0dmZYPiuXzrUEUbYC0qMqHT0=; b=M445rda1cpw1OzO+BnpcZk1EAgqoPo52Zl744vAE46m/9uyz1f3SnZu3HCOncAxZL0 cCaSjQmpR004wOYkQPsRiq8urAfENrzXdZ0s6B8TXb8hAmpvdeQm6MBXI1G8taCG6SNP WVXfFUZ+4e4LHRsEGT7PHW4IeikwCotniO8ENdWlpA86TlwbfHa4FWUIW2Mb1FF60jvi 66d+TYJo/z6OItwzCJg2uGFO3wfuUtbepyEuQLBEI63RsJeU1DS1KOSfV2ca/Ur+nf96 MwvvHLjaeOFx5L8oL6pv2NcvXVxa4E5t2stJMLq/BQjU+wAtRIIvzZH6/mFB+Z1qr2L4 FhMA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWOnMW1TScwVBggvqpDQqDLY11USdqobdvQNbFs4WNDRN39WFzp cxjjWOJkvkDitheqI3VCUkYZb4LM8ig64CGCpmORCA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:7409:: with SMTP id v9mr16419666lfe.125.1571065084369; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 07:58:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190620150555.15717-1-patrick.bellasi@arm.com> <20190628100751.lpcwsouacsi2swkm@e110439-lin> <20190628123800.GS3419@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190628140057.7aujh2wsk7wtqib3@e110439-lin> <20190802094725.ploqfarz7fj7vrtp@e110439-lin> <20191014145218.GI2328@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> In-Reply-To: <20191014145218.GI2328@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> From: Vincent Guittot Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:57:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: util_est: fast ramp-up EWMA on utilization increases To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Patrick Bellasi , linux-kernel , Ingo Molnar , "Rafael J . Wysocki" , Viresh Kumar , Douglas Raillard , Quentin Perret , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , Juri Lelli Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 16:52, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > The energy aware schedutil patches remimded me this was still pending. > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 10:47:25AM +0100, Patrick Bellasi wrote: > > Hi Peter, Vincent, > > is there anything different I can do on this? > > I think both Vincent and me are basically fine with the patch, it was > the Changelog/explanation for it that sat uneasy. I agree > > Specifically I think the 'confusion' around the PELT invariance stuff > doesn't help. > > I think that if you present it simply as making util_est directly follow > upward motion and only decay on downward -- and the rationale for it -- > then it should be fine. > >