Received: by 2002:a5b:505:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id o5csp7348866ybp; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:28:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy29WlZPpevz5HjFGvQ+5peuwWGx8Cp2EW+DhZj6WlpqEIAAJNFAjR0wEk2M48Sdt0kwI91 X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:296:: with SMTP id l22mr39720970edv.86.1571236087438; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:28:07 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1571236087; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=pygt3OH77piNJh8pB6hWYQEkpNC98wufhSLbt3+J7X/f7kn+rBViAfGN5pVfhkv2/I jVMt59/30vjMC4khPP9iPCiwd9kUO9ipoLIkK9Rd2uZ1XHgYza/7oNMVJisXI54/ElYE zGI/1GX1Ukfydy1pOBhim7K395Q0rmCClmMqVo0Hs4B7KuDLM191l6CGRaq8Pnvdv0m+ kvlcMUUWvnYb2dJpBU3LcOBoZcp2knDPWifUXeUmtRihNOjviqbj78rXIGEqLMt/J6yJ unp2gxB8+ETUNwyrUXjce7CvmdmOEFviH//10dpt+6nPkZd5gNV9CYb2pc35UayCbjJl E51w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:organization:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=KNn9Myc7S8J8V4l1PRsKK9S6lgxxNOTvOkd3eGpsXfE=; b=QvcXHE2m6AnmwQyIjrijEdHN8OiW+/wOAxQ2W54ElmG4NzjX/XMO7o7qKFIMXmQZxb G9raARm4HEXSCuD2+j2l169x7aw9w/mdURZziIj+/yU7zqLj9JgmgqHTgq3nvb5B13bt hIoMZCw7vt8V3+v7f1MokysH4UApWuM0npo3S5Fpbi+5TpR8bQ8AQkSqIU1p99qrVHHT 2rfVpVyiKVVZJOfIE3xhV/eqJX2w4PgeRjgnOJHF94aoR/1StyBSY20lQChN+Rd09FnA u5Ha3yeYmGFEeUZuxRrTfzpkdvas6jNiEQRlTjH9LQb0g783t+fh83Evcj6W9JKCzxoq +WPg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c8si18797696edb.82.2019.10.16.07.27.43; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390669AbfJPKiJ (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 06:38:09 -0400 Received: from mga02.intel.com ([134.134.136.20]:12940 "EHLO mga02.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727291AbfJPKiJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 06:38:09 -0400 X-Amp-Result: UNKNOWN X-Amp-Original-Verdict: FILE UNKNOWN X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga004.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.48]) by orsmga101.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 16 Oct 2019 03:38:08 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.67,303,1566889200"; d="scan'208";a="220735156" Received: from jsakkine-mobl1.tm.intel.com (HELO localhost) ([10.237.50.130]) by fmsmga004.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2019 03:38:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:38:05 +0300 From: Jarkko Sakkinen To: Jason Gunthorpe Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, David Safford , Pascal Van Leeuwen , James Bottomley , Peter Huewe , Arnd Bergmann , Greg Kroah-Hartman , open list Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: Salt tpm_get_random() result with get_random_bytes() Message-ID: <20191016103805.GA10184@linux.intel.com> References: <20191015124702.633-1-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> <20191015170450.GB5444@ziepe.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191015170450.GB5444@ziepe.ca> Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 02:04:50PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 03:47:02PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote: > > Salt the result that comes from the TPM RNG with random bytes from the > > kernel RNG. This will allow to use tpm_get_random() as a substitute for > > get_random_bytes(). TPM could have a bug (making results predicatable), > > backdoor or even an inteposer in the bus. Salting gives protections > > against these concerns. > > Seems like a dangerous use case, why would any kernel user that cared > about quality of randomness ever call a tpm_* API to get quality > random data? This is related to this discussion: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/CAE=NcrY3BTvD-L2XP6bsO=9oAJLtSD0wYpUymVkAGAnYObsPzQ@mail.gmail.com/T/#t I could also move this to the call site. /Jarkko