Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752437AbWAFQ0Y (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:26:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752274AbWAFQ0X (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:26:23 -0500 Received: from sipsolutions.net ([66.160.135.76]:30731 "EHLO sipsolutions.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752259AbWAFQ0W (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:26:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Bcm43xx-dev] [Fwd: State of the Union: Wireless] From: Johannes Berg To: Feyd Cc: bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <43BE96DA.1020107@seznam.cz> References: <1136541243.4037.18.camel@localhost> <200601061200.59376.mbuesch@freenet.de> <1136547494.7429.72.camel@localhost> <200601061245.55978.mbuesch@freenet.de> <43BE96DA.1020107@seznam.cz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-hamO6lsAZSD37aeQaqD0" Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:25:51 +0100 Message-Id: <1136564751.29313.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2187 Lines: 54 --=-hamO6lsAZSD37aeQaqD0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:12 +0100, Feyd wrote: > Michael Buesch wrote: > > The _real_ main point I wanted to make was to _not_ use a net_device fo= r > > the master device. What else should be used for master device, let it > > be a device node or a netlink socket, is rather unimportant at > > this stage. >=20 > If the only purpose of the master device was configuration, then it > would be beter to use something other then a net_device, but you may > want to send/receive raw 802.11 packets from userspace, most logicaly > over a master interface. We thought about that for a while, but it may not be feasible. Certain hardware that manages more stuff than others in firmware/hardware may not allow sending raw frames without going into some special mode, which is better handled by adding some kind of raw virtual device. johannes --=-hamO6lsAZSD37aeQaqD0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (SIP Solutions) iQIVAwUAQ76aDaVg1VMiehFYAQIe+w/+OmlQW2vcIsDarSgRIajUQUpS+U2liQzH 6G5OpCtUCSbzZdckMRsMkh6rIwKFXDWoz6lPxjaAD2sZkZAYulzShSHfTgibvVni WISgBseGMwvuhLW7ljmz8NCzzDvr6UzHtJb0E1IoWipf/cBZqood+yYziV6NS/PX qGpS/FmReIpkEUvLiEsX0jWJYutAQAuA7hm+WVSTeNJM3BeDVax9EAN8dEwT0baa XfETuXpgYwGbUtF9vyuGeMMnxBsz7y82LliEIvjmrpNdy3xwxSg6oz51dDS19xml vi/6X/u7IQHx27YjvacTcCpzXhvJ49fNPft4+MuLDgFunD64vjiwfLLJr4C9h+IL iDp8BNa0Sd0glvCyul30n3vp7iU4+UE/krF6r7+TgvbrHWs9N2zmV7WPNKJQ1gIy bYF2g2LRUiIsE/mlu8V/dqNTspsGzZ5xAixhyoU6Wa5+i7zp+m3FDSFk1bb63MrA OobGDtLOMQI8XVWvk9FIebK4bgVjbjOKyPJ7EvqOtrMwq6nMNKg4j1iSwWVtnORJ tGB46DFhpKlT1AmE6mkTT1/ejN/j+PuAI/I0K2D9nKxy6OuH/cDkMzdMB6K4R1Cz tg3lHxHzC6BxXI5Ih6FIvIxNT9POpQNsDVOk1I/3ZD+5NXFJ4aX+cLH3igWaYRFo CjcbhDJrTtQ= =4W0e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hamO6lsAZSD37aeQaqD0-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/