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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y26si1496924edu.176.2019.10.17.06.41.56; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 06:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b="XzJv7/wf"; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2437217AbfJPUdU (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:33:20 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:60666 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2437191AbfJPUdU (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:33:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-47-72-35.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [73.47.72.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E813A21835; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:33:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1571257999; bh=sQAsOokFGnvVh7DS3xyle/w6+XO8DmU7j1JEW0OM9Fo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=XzJv7/wfqu3xTvxwOOLAHx9YgE0jusDtYf8bb0I8IMrUHsMrMlj4Q7lpfLy+Wxjjp F1Op02SgoaPr3iyJEAflgDFNGr9ja7Na9Nzm4hQfkhXgV6f7LpM4/1ekCf9Xm1Cd3i 8PeRy74qwWNd9UkMoQw3SLDSA3n2pLGjFzo4oQ8w= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:33:17 -0400 From: Sasha Levin To: Pali =?iso-8859-1?Q?Roh=E1r?= Cc: Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , Greg Kroah-Hartman , devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sasha Levin , Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [PATCH] staging: exfat: add exfat filesystem code to staging Message-ID: <20191016203317.GU31224@sasha-vm> References: <20190828160817.6250-1-gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> <20190829205631.uhz6jdboneej3j3c@pali> <184209.1567120696@turing-police> <20190829233506.GT5281@sasha-vm> <20190830075647.wvhrx4asnkrfkkwk@pali> <20191016140353.4hrncxa5wkx47oau@pali> <20191016143113.GS31224@sasha-vm> <20191016160349.pwghlg566hh2o7id@pali> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20191016160349.pwghlg566hh2o7id@pali> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:03:49PM +0200, Pali Roh?r wrote: >On Wednesday 16 October 2019 10:31:13 Sasha Levin wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 04:03:53PM +0200, Pali Roh?r wrote: >> > On Friday 30 August 2019 09:56:47 Pali Roh?r wrote: >> > > On Thursday 29 August 2019 19:35:06 Sasha Levin wrote: >> > > > With regards to missing specs/docs/whatever - our main concern with this >> > > > release was that we want full interoperability, which is why the spec >> > > > was made public as-is without modifications from what was used >> > > > internally. There's no "secret sauce" that Microsoft is hiding here. >> > > >> > > Ok, if it was just drop of "current version" of documentation then it >> > > makes sense. >> > > >> > > > How about we give this spec/code time to get soaked and reviewed for a >> > > > bit, and if folks still feel (in a month or so?) that there are missing >> > > > bits of information related to exfat, I'll be happy to go back and try >> > > > to get them out as well. >> > >> > Hello Sasha! >> > >> > Now one month passed, so do you have some information when missing parts >> > of documentation like TexFAT would be released to public? >> >> Sure, I'll see if I can get an approval to open it up. > >Ok! > >> Can I assume you will be implementing TexFAT support once the spec is >> available? > >I cannot promise that I would implement something which I do not know >how is working... It depends on how complicated TexFAT is and also how >future exfat support in kernel would look like. > >But I'm interesting in implementing it. It looks like the reason this wasn't made public along with the exFAT spec is that TexFAT is pretty much dead - it's old, there are no users we are aware of, and digging it out of it's grave to make it public is actually quite the headache. Is this something you actually have a need for? an entity that has a requirement for TexFAT? I'd would rather spend my time elsewhere than digging TexFAT out of it's grave. Is there anything else in the exFAT spec that is missing (and someone actually wants/uses)? -- Thanks, Sasha