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Date:   Thu, 17 Oct 2019 00:46:08 +0100
From:   Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To:     Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 3/3] mm: fix double page fault on arm64 if PTE_AF is
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Hey Palmer,

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 04:21:59PM -0700, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 05:39:44 PDT (-0700), will@kernel.org wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 02:19:05AM +0000, Justin He (Arm Technology China) wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 09:57:40AM +0800, Jia He wrote:
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > index b1ca51a079f2..1f56b0118ef5 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/memory.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > @@ -118,6 +118,13 @@ int randomize_va_space __read_mostly =
> > > > >  					2;
> > > > >  #endif
> > > > >
> > > > > +#ifndef arch_faults_on_old_pte
> > > > > +static inline bool arch_faults_on_old_pte(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	return false;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +#endif
> > > >
> > > > Kirill has acked this, so I'm happy to take the patch as-is, however isn't
> > > > it the case that /most/ architectures will want to return true for
> > > > arch_faults_on_old_pte()? In which case, wouldn't it make more sense for
> > > > that to be the default, and have x86 and arm64 provide an override? For
> > > > example, aren't most architectures still going to hit the double fault
> > > > scenario even with your patch applied?
> > > 
> > > No, after applying my patch series, only those architectures which don't provide
> > > setting access flag by hardware AND don't implement their arch_faults_on_old_pte
> > > will hit the double page fault.
> > > 
> > > The meaning of true for arch_faults_on_old_pte() is "this arch doesn't have the hardware
> > > setting access flag way, it might cause page fault on an old pte"
> > > I don't want to change other architectures' default behavior here. So by default,
> > > arch_faults_on_old_pte() is false.
> > 
> > ...and my complaint is that this is the majority of supported architectures,
> > so you're fixing something for arm64 which also affects arm, powerpc,
> > alpha, mips, riscv, ...
> > 
> > Chances are, they won't even realise they need to implement
> > arch_faults_on_old_pte() until somebody runs into the double fault and
> > wastes lots of time debugging it before they spot your patch.
> 
> If I understand the semantics correctly, we should have this set to true.  I
> don't have any context here, but we've got
> 
>                /*
>                 * The kernel assumes that TLBs don't cache invalid
>                 * entries, but in RISC-V, SFENCE.VMA specifies an
>                 * ordering constraint, not a cache flush; it is
>                 * necessary even after writing invalid entries.
>                 */
>                local_flush_tlb_page(addr);
> 
> in do_page_fault().

Ok, although I think this is really about whether or not your hardware can
make a pte young when accessed, or whether you take a fault and do it
by updating the pte explicitly.

v12 of the patches did change the default, so you should be "safe" with
those either way:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2019-October/686030.html

Will