Received: by 2002:a25:d7c1:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id o184csp3934813ybg; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:58:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyFiuBzAfvzhTK0nPRWq4aFyxaccdH48QFu1HaMdKvWGT2gsFtZA7kB9u53Th6eEXFOXQ6E X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:eda2:: with SMTP id sa2mr4643510ejb.14.1572026281921; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:58:01 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1572026281; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=E2bYtvUQO48QVuAkrqTp1MfGOPuDPDhDOcv6Tklx7cK8WBqKjC7QRn6mXBUmn6Gegh wYGE/Jf0/BWbO5q+uY3GYDQwE3JaVQjrfsMLeF4kJRzd3iUyhsbDdbUArgJSf8rZb4ZK vv7G9bQKM7jCkSe5O3RJbJ+99cTgTb+JgnB0BEDLV1f4AvX6CWfcyJJL0YVcQ2hj5GmJ Lgud+cBL4Jsp5dI+qXcCMEonV8P/Nr3HHf5oBSTDssH/liD6GtT7sIif/ZnWODiB3Pda qEsy9dFS80ts0pqglALTmH3JX6nzGHq9puSs79CzcFOAygXqkLtuxuDPW2S93e42LwL6 vYeQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=Q0MxRoZgaAlKmuvJcz+FBzLUx7bP5My5AFYC9zMvy1A=; b=WgdtD71EfZp6hTckGVqOafnZEFpCUT2Q1NC9ccDncoEAiiGg5SNJDF/ic8BWjiqUt4 BMszkH1+sJhh4NCxQpo5qOfu/Eq8BPW0OKr/KHizA64Ir2ktlcDB2UwkYXYAe/YTwlmD IcdOI9xC/hHnKSbrw2e8e14Uwt05QWbplja+x8T1qYfSS6I5j8MIpzNlCjatt53ERgJG mU3yTXrKqWJV+MEIkhrAkBH/MLIKT/ew8HC/i2hfbX0pKjPyX6rJ/wsnHEXXe5s+bdtb mNARp8bH2PXGUQSn5qTZ3lsYje6GcVdiSg7gcWXo9xup6d3AQp7yK33ZH/GhNFBbpPSy +LYA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p22si1687262ejz.381.2019.10.25.10.57.10; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2409549AbfJXOzT (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:55:19 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:54687 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2409522AbfJXOzS (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:55:18 -0400 Received: from callcc.thunk.org (guestnat-104-133-0-98.corp.google.com [104.133.0.98] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x9OEt4lp029979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:55:05 -0400 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 769AE420456; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:55:04 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Paul Menzel Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Donald Buczek Subject: Re: File system for scratch space (in HPC cluster) Message-ID: <20191024145504.GD1124@mit.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:43:40PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > > In our cluster, we offer scratch space for temporary files. As > these files are temporary, we do not need any safety > requirements – especially not those when the system crashes or > shuts down. So no `sync` is for example needed. > > Are there file systems catering to this need? I couldn’t find > any? Maybe I missed some options for existing file systems. You could use ext4 in nojournal mode. If you want to make sure that fsync() doesn't force a cache flush, you can mount with the nobarrier mount option. - Ted