Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964867AbWAIQek (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:34:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964860AbWAIQek (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:34:40 -0500 Received: from dspnet.fr.eu.org ([213.186.44.138]:63492 "EHLO dspnet.fr.eu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964866AbWAIQej (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:34:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:34:38 +0100 From: Olivier Galibert To: Lee Revell Cc: Alan Cox , Yaroslav Rastrigin , Kasper Sandberg , Alistair John Strachan , andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time Message-ID: <20060109163437.GA67773@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Galibert , Lee Revell , Alan Cox , Yaroslav Rastrigin , Kasper Sandberg , Alistair John Strachan , andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <174467f50601082354y7ca871c7k@mail.gmail.com> <200601091403.46304.yarick@it-territory.ru> <1136813783.8412.4.camel@localhost> <200601091656.48355.yarick@it-territory.ru> <1136822827.6659.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1136823313.9957.37.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1136823313.9957.37.camel@mindpipe> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1209 Lines: 27 On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:15:12AM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 16:07 +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Currently Linux performance loading large binaries is at least > > perceptually worse than Windows (some of that is perceptual tricks > > windows apps pull, some of it real). > > Would you care to elaborate on this statement? It's not clear to me how > perception could differ from reality in this case. If it seems faster > doesn't that mean it is faster? You can have a window opened without being ready to accept input yet for instance. XEmacs does that[1] when it opens its window before parsing the user's configuration which can load a number of things and hence take a while to run. "Ok I'm going to open your application" animations allow to win some perceptual time too. Humans are fundamentally easy to fool for 1-2 seconds as long as they have feedback. Longer gets harder :-) OG. [1] For technical reasons, not perceptual. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/