Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932176AbWAJORY (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932171AbWAJORY (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Received: from gate.perex.cz ([85.132.177.35]:51349 "EHLO gate.perex.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932148AbWAJORX (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:17:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:17:21 +0100 (CET) From: Jaroslav Kysela X-X-Sender: perex@tm8103.perex-int.cz To: Hannu Savolainen Cc: Takashi Iwai , linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, ALSA development , LKML Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <20060103193736.GG3831@stusta.de> <20060104030034.6b780485.zaitcev@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1801 Lines: 44 On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Hannu Savolainen wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > > > > > > Then you can include a libOSSlib.o library in ALSA with all the OSS > > > emulation stuf inside. > > > > You should do the clear statement that the direct using of syscalls is not > > recommented for application developers. Unfortunately at this time, I > > admit, it would be very difficult to change the existing applications. > Sorry. That breaks backward compatibility with systems that don't have > libOSSlib (all current and past Linux distros, all BSD variants, > everything but systems with our official OSS package installed). Such > statement can be added in 2010 but provided that all Linux distros and > other environments having OSS compatible implementations add the osslib_* > routines within this year. I meant that you can originate to move the OSS entry point to somewhere else (library) and try to persuade developers to use library than direct calls. Of course, we cannot change current applications, but we can start the movement now. I just ask you to do it now. Nothing else. It will be a slow process but it should be started now. Also, I don't think that it will break something. The application developers can use your code in their applications directly when the distribution does not have the OSS access library package. Note that your words clearly states your attitude to change something. Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/