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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:17:35 +0100
From: Tim Tassonis <timtas@cubic.ch>
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> 
> I won't try to speak for Linus (perhaps he'd like to pipe up at some point), 
> but I think you're pulling that concept wayy out of context here.
> 
> Quoting ManagementStyle:
> 
>> Btw, another way to avoid a decision is to plaintively just whine "can't
>> we just do both?" and look pitiful.  Trust me, it works.  If it's not
>> clear which approach is better, they'll eventually figure it out.  The
>> answer may end up being that both teams get so frustrated by the
>> situation that they just give up.
> 
> Built into that paragraph, I think, is the assumption that you never 'do 
> both'. 

Well, we'd have to ask Linus about this one. I think it can be a good 
idea to do both, if you're not sure which one is better.

> 
> Also, referring to OSS/Alsa is just a great way to illustrate the problem with 
> your idea. There is, today, finally a "dominant" solution, but how long did 
> it take us to get there? By my count, a really long time! And along the way 
> we've had to deal with all kinds of applications that just support the first 
> and not the other. And it seems like far too many people still have just one 
> foot in the door - take for instance the README files shipped with commercial 
> game ports that advise using OSS at the first hint of trouble with Alsa.

A network device is way better abstracted by the operating system, so 
compatibility issues are of much smaller concern.

> Is this what we want for wireless?

We wouldn't get it, see above.


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