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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e56si7852877edb.172.2019.11.04.09.57.06; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 09:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@firemail.cc header.s=mail header.b=CN6ujrK0; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729398AbfKDR4f (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:56:35 -0500 Received: from mx1.cock.li ([185.10.68.5]:40735 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727469AbfKDR4f (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:56:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on cock.li X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS shortcircuit=_SCTYPE_ autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=firemail.cc; s=mail; t=1572890193; bh=FO882cvk6FLWrnJGhHr1h2Rc0TjXZQ4KU4YXJIWlciU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=CN6ujrK0obFpcxO/5AWoOof+HuehsvUMGifE1pPSxp6xSD1+gKk/5Hz2Q74Jb5Ysc ujNFKX/sbMnkF0Q0gaqLGEMbslj8R8D7vkAnbeI3Qm0EbjmAUnyus83xU+KAC0wnp1 /ft9btcrNBA5SCLf/bOe/N1+yYinaohtNkSUJSJWl3ROM9/VVg2xPCVZOdS8SukTub bhZd+ZGMcAIewhemd3PkPrsaR+sHLjxz9kUIMdVRc0BWU24g78IDGBMXFN1MpQK1P6 ZpKB/lfO2w6AF+c2gaNtwZiR+1LCv+Hf4DSK3NqmqrPBV9LLNCUAaFLT9fCAhsiNeS ixd+RJqrlwHQA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 17:56:32 +0000 From: nipponmail@firemail.cc To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Will no-one sue GrSecurity for their blatant GPL violation (of GCC and the linux kernel)? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: nipponmail@firemail.cc User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org You are incorrect. GPL version 2 section 6 states that one shall not add additional restrictions between the agreement between the licensee and further licensees. It governs that relationship vis-a-vis the protected Work. GrSecurity has, indeed, stipulated an additional restrictive term. From: You may distribute derivative works freely. GrSecurity has forced customers to agree to: We shall not distribute the (non-separable) derivative work EXCEPT to our own customers (when required). That is clearly an additional restrictive term. Yes, I am a lawyer. A court would not be "tricked" by GrSecurity putting it's additional restrictive term in a separate writing. The license is instructions about what you are allowed to do with Copyright Holder's work; He EXPLICITLY forbade additional restrictive terms. GrSecurity does not have a pre-existing legal right to create non-separable derivative works at all. The default rights are: nothing (all rights reservered). On 2019-11-04 17:36, ams@gnu.org wrote: > One is not under obligation to guarantee that new versions are > distributed to someone, which also means obligations can be terminated > for any reason. So while grsecurity might not be doing the morally > and ethically right thing, I do not think they are violating the GNU > GPL. You're still free to redistribute the patches, but grsecurity > isn't under obligation to give you future updates. > > Their agreement text is located at > https://grsecurity.net/agree/agreement_faq