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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q40si8838477eda.218.2019.11.04.15.47.45; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 15:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20161025 header.b=XWr7kryZ; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729882AbfKDXow (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:44:52 -0500 Received: from mail-ua1-f68.google.com ([209.85.222.68]:42169 "EHLO mail-ua1-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728602AbfKDXow (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:44:52 -0500 Received: by mail-ua1-f68.google.com with SMTP id 31so1849932uas.9 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 15:44:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SpNwJfSJO9MidRCrn2p9uupIwuhjvEPSgYuh9TBYZuw=; b=XWr7kryZXstmsXgYE4dBJ4NrnDur3s/AC0seExuiGF6z4UGQCwWfIPFNeY7JeVwPM3 wnP1G5A/K76IWU2DyV/IUlCtYDCgPO0n/bDVtTP4pu+zHCoH+fei6dyO2OcLB2gsC6W7 yHM2c0/FUmsEcEYZY0y9ta70pnWbez+C+rMSFS+aiM6DHbB5OA98h3MrtmOeV6q9EDtK bw1zfaHUujqN+zHGVRnnbiam+tcW3d2rc3/Pvust522b4CCrQ9v9kAdVmg3Axk3wD37y xqCPcphfjtbZ+wkJQy35r/dA4lS8knkpiqdmkjVq1MbYxp8Jbw1P5SRRjv/N4BJhioPs zRZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SpNwJfSJO9MidRCrn2p9uupIwuhjvEPSgYuh9TBYZuw=; b=YypXnw6+E9XZuK1UPxRSW0cNpDMyqfntQCYbpMWx7VDvNT6DtwEI6cN/3pi4lRKBpM CCXcdUtyLmjk2U3/t6+ogPZDZkIcuS80c4EqEqqVA36kbb2Dh1b37ToVWWEtRLUaEr9j Z9SjilK0J4v7MWaR9e/XEnlHT0XJ3kGG9ZbIXb+FtVf8135ozwtn461Kzw/2/CRK+xEI LR+Jyhz5qxsqtUcG/jrJWwNqAMa4nMKhhvia7Uer4vRzfVmtjgoty0etsN7Mb2gP0Y9N k56uua56Cm+KxG6pxyRbkQzRMoi0hbCDtLeoAJ7OiR+hx509uJIqxm8nVyqOhRrU688J QR4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUNe2pvCjdSsWbDGtkKFaefLAK8OXpzr/RoLzWXKzpGv1mZwSYu JmMAPR+xFNs3OiMOETAqRoke/Y49fcnqqo6qYHniOg== X-Received: by 2002:ab0:4587:: with SMTP id u7mr3850575uau.67.1572911090684; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 15:44:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191018161033.261971-1-samitolvanen@google.com> <20191101221150.116536-1-samitolvanen@google.com> <20191101221150.116536-12-samitolvanen@google.com> <20191104171132.GB2024@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com> In-Reply-To: <20191104171132.GB2024@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com> From: Sami Tolvanen Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:44:39 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: disable function graph tracing with SCS To: Mark Rutland Cc: Will Deacon , Catalin Marinas , Steven Rostedt , Masami Hiramatsu , Ard Biesheuvel , Dave Martin , Kees Cook , Laura Abbott , Marc Zyngier , Nick Desaulniers , Jann Horn , Miguel Ojeda , Masahiro Yamada , clang-built-linux , Kernel Hardening , linux-arm-kernel , LKML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:11 AM Mark Rutland wrote: > Can you please elaborate on _how_ this is incompatible in the commit > message? > > For example, it's not clear to me if you mean that's functionally > incompatible, or if you're trying to remove return-altering gadgets. > > If there's a functional incompatibility, please spell that out a bit > more clearly. Likewise if this is about minimizing the set of places > that can mess with control-flow outside of usual function conventions. Sure, I'll add a better description in v5. In this case, the return address is modified in the kernel stack, which means the changes are ignored with SCS. Sami