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From:   Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Date:   Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:05:39 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/17] arm64: disable function graph tracing with SCS
To:     Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:55 AM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 03:44:39PM -0800, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
> > Sure, I'll add a better description in v5. In this case, the return
> > address is modified in the kernel stack, which means the changes are
> > ignored with SCS.
>
> Ok, that makes sense to me. I'd suggest something like:
>
> | The graph tracer hooks returns by modifying frame records on the
> | (regular) stack, but with SCS the return address is taken from the
> | shadow stack, and the value in the frame record has no effect. As we
> | don't currently have a mechanism to determine the corresponding slot
> | on the shadow stack (and to pass this through the ftrace
> | infrastructure), for now let's disable the graph tracer when SCS is
> | enabled.
>
> ... as I suspect with some rework of the trampoline and common ftrace
> code we'd be able to correctly manipulate the shadow stack for this.
> Similarly, if clang gained -fpatchable-funciton-etnry, we'd get that for
> free.

That sounds good to me. Thanks, Mark.

Sami