Subject: Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux
	can't for a long time
From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: David Nicol <davidnicol@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:05:18 -0500
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On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 12:53 -0600, David Nicol wrote:
> On 1/10/06, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:29 -0600, David Nicol wrote:
> > > On 1/9/06, Yaroslav Rastrigin <yarick@it-territory.ru> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Unfortunately, bounties doesn't work :-/
> > >
> > >
> > > No?  Bounties seems to work fine for Asterisk.  Is the problem, still no central
> > > linux kernel bounty system?
> >
> >
> > Many bounties don't work because they are too low, too vague or both.
> > For example several months ago Ubuntu offered $500 to "fix all remaining
> > ALSA issues for PowerMac hardware".  HA!  That's like 5 or 6 diffent
> > drivers which ranged from not working at all, to sound works but no
> > system beeps, etc...
> >
> > Lee
> 
> 
> How did they offer this bounty?  Through the ubuntu announcements channels?
> 
> Like if, say, Linux International was to partner with TipJar.com to create
> and maintain an organized open bounty system where stakeholders wanting
> to see something could contribute to the pot for the feature and the first
> implementor who passes the tests (including code readability!) gets the pot.
> 
> Write me off-list to become involved in this project or to direct me to
> an already existing project so I don't waste more time on wheel reinvention?

Heh, I only found out about it when some Ubuntu user mentioned it in an
ALSA bug report.  I guess they just expect people to find them somehow.
So yes, there needs to be a single, central resource for OSS bounties.

I think a lot of these problems with the PPC drivers were later solved.
But my point was really that $500 was not nearly enough for the amount
of work that would have been required.  It's a nice bonus for someone
who would have done it for free anyway but I was under the impression
that bounties were created to solve problems too tricky or unrewarding
or uninteresting for someone to do for free.

Lee


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