Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:12:24 -0800 (PST)
From: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
cc: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
       akpm@osdl.org, adobriyan@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.15-mm2: alpha broken
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:19:30AM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Paul Jackson wrote:
> >
> > > Adrian wrote:
> > > > This is the amout of testing I can afford.
> > >
> > > It sounds to me like you are saying that a minute of your time is
> > > more valuable than a minute of each of several other peoples time.
> > >
> > > The only two people I gladly accept that argument from are Linus
> > > and Andrew.
> > >
> > > For the rest of us, it is important to minimize the total workload
> > > of all us combined, not to optimize our individual output.
> > >
> > > What you don't test, several others of us get to test.  Only its often
> > > more work, for -each- of us, as we each have to figure out which of
> > > 1000 patches caused the breakage.
> >
> > I don't find building cross-toolchains quite as easy as Al does,
> > so I download and build with these (on i386):
> >   http://developer.osdl.org/dev/plm/cross_compile/
> > as Andrew has also mentioned in the past.
> >
> > Or one can submit kernel patches for builds to an OSDL
> > build machine which does 8 or 9 $ARCH builds.
>
> This leaves 15 or 16 other architectures for my puny 1,8 GHz CPU.
>
> And does OSDL fix other people's compile breakages in the latest -mm
> before I submit my patches, or am I required to play QA for every
> single architecture before I can submit one single patch touching
> architecture-independend files?

-ETOOMUCHSARCASM
(from someone who also uses sarcasm often)

But seriously, I don't think anyone suggested anything quite
as extreme as your question implies.

-- 
~Randy
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