Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422987AbWAMVdB (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:33:01 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422988AbWAMVdA (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:33:00 -0500 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:35344 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1422987AbWAMVdA (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:33:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:32:59 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: "Randy.Dunlap" Cc: Paul Jackson , akpm@osdl.org, adobriyan@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.6.15-mm2: alpha broken Message-ID: <20060113213259.GT29663@stusta.de> References: <20060107052221.61d0b600.akpm@osdl.org> <20060107210646.GA26124@mipter.zuzino.mipt.ru> <20060107154842.5832af75.akpm@osdl.org> <20060110182422.d26c5d8b.pj@sgi.com> <20060113141154.GL29663@stusta.de> <20060113101054.d62acb0d.pj@sgi.com> <20060113210848.GS29663@stusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2564 Lines: 70 On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:12:24PM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:19:30AM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Paul Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > Adrian wrote: > > > > > This is the amout of testing I can afford. > > > > > > > > It sounds to me like you are saying that a minute of your time is > > > > more valuable than a minute of each of several other peoples time. > > > > > > > > The only two people I gladly accept that argument from are Linus > > > > and Andrew. > > > > > > > > For the rest of us, it is important to minimize the total workload > > > > of all us combined, not to optimize our individual output. > > > > > > > > What you don't test, several others of us get to test. Only its often > > > > more work, for -each- of us, as we each have to figure out which of > > > > 1000 patches caused the breakage. > > > > > > I don't find building cross-toolchains quite as easy as Al does, > > > so I download and build with these (on i386): > > > http://developer.osdl.org/dev/plm/cross_compile/ > > > as Andrew has also mentioned in the past. > > > > > > Or one can submit kernel patches for builds to an OSDL > > > build machine which does 8 or 9 $ARCH builds. > > > > This leaves 15 or 16 other architectures for my puny 1,8 GHz CPU. > > > > And does OSDL fix other people's compile breakages in the latest -mm > > before I submit my patches, or am I required to play QA for every > > single architecture before I can submit one single patch touching > > architecture-independend files? > > -ETOOMUCHSARCASM > (from someone who also uses sarcasm often) > > But seriously, I don't think anyone suggested anything quite > as extreme as your question implies. Where's the sarcasm? Looking at [1], the change to include/linux/kernel.h I'm so heavily criticized for in this thread broke the compilation of 2.6.16-mm2 on 3 or 4 out of our 24 architectures. Which less extreme approach would for sure have prevented this? > ~Randy cu Adrian [1] http://l4x.org/k/ -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/