Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1423026AbWAMWXL (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:23:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1423024AbWAMWXL (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:23:11 -0500 Received: from ra.tuxdriver.com ([24.172.12.4]:6417 "EHLO ra.tuxdriver.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1423021AbWAMWXJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:23:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:22:59 -0500 From: "John W. Linville" To: netdev@vger.kernel.org Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: wireless: recap of current issues (stack) Message-ID: <20060113222259.GL16166@tuxdriver.com> Mail-Followup-To: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060113195723.GB16166@tuxdriver.com> <20060113212605.GD16166@tuxdriver.com> <20060113213200.GG16166@tuxdriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060113213200.GG16166@tuxdriver.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1722 Lines: 38 Stack ===== Is the in-kernel stack up-to-date w/ SourceForge? No. Why not? Can this development be brought into wireless development kernels? Can the in-kernel stack be saved? With the addition of softmac? Is it possible to extend softmac to support virtual wlan devices? If not, how do we proceed? How do we get more drivers in-kernel? (Multiple stacks probably don't help beyond the short-term timeframe.) I think we need to rally as many driver writers as possible a) to get into the kernel now; and, b) move away from duplicating stack features. I don't see how to achieve that with the DeviceScape stack in the short- or medium-term timeframe. I get the impression that porting drivers from one stack to the other is not all that painful, particularly in the ieee80211->DeviceScape direction. Is it reasonable to expect short-term development to stay with the ieee80211 stack, while planning either a migration to DeviceScape or a major ieee80211 overhaul based on the DeviceScape code? Do we need to have both wireless-stable and wireless-devel kernels? What about the suggestion of having both stacks in the kernel at once? I'm not very excited about two in-kernel stacks. Still, consolidating wireless drivers down to two stacks is probably better than what we have now...? Either way, we would have to have general understanding that at some point (not too far away), one of the stacks would have to disappear. -- John W. Linville linville@tuxdriver.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/