Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:44:01 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:43:51 -0500 Received: from neon-gw.transmeta.com ([209.10.217.66]:23556 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:43:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0CA3E9.B51FB18A@transmeta.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:42:02 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Organization: Transmeta Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test11 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, sv, no, da, es, fr, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle CC: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue In-Reply-To: <3A0C3F30.F5EB076E@timpanogas.org> <3A0C6B7C.110902B4@timpanogas.org> <3A0C6E01.EFA10590@timpanogas.org> <26054.973893835@euclid.cs.niu.edu> <8uhs7c$2hr$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <20001111023521.D29352@bacchus.dhis.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ralf Baechle wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 02:18:20PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > Numerically high load averages aren't inherently a bad thing. There > > isn't anything bad about a system with a loadavg of 20 if it does what > > it should in the time you'd expect. However, if your daemons start > > blocking because they assume this number means badness, than that is > > the problem, not the loadavg in itself. > > The problem seems to me that the load figure doesn't express what most > people seem to expect it to - CPU load. > Actually, what most people expect it to represent is schedulability of new tasks. The problem is more one of: a) Expecting a fixed relationship between the specific number and the behaviour of the machine; b) The long time constants. On an 8-way machine a load average of 16 is not particularly high, even if you only count runnable processes, for example. -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/