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Wysocki" Cc: Mika Westerberg , Bjorn Helgaas , LKML , Lyude Paul , "Rafael J . Wysocki" , Linux PCI , Linux PM , dri-devel , nouveau , Dave Airlie , Mario Limonciello X-MC-Unique: _ispdzZQOnyNvwnHA8MDFA-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org It depends on the kernel being built with ACPI_REV_OVERRIDE_POSSIBLE=3Dy and acpi_rev_override=3D1 being set on the kernel command line On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:15 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote= : > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:10 PM Karol Herbst wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:06 PM Rafael J. Wysocki w= rote: > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:51 PM Karol Herbst wr= ote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:48 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:22 PM Mika Westerberg > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:52:22AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wro= te: > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:18 AM Mika Westerberg > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [cut] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, so does it look like we are trying to work around AML tha= t tried > > > > > > > to work around some problematic behavior in Linux at one poin= t? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it looks like so if I read the ASL right. > > > > > > > > > > OK, so that would call for a DMI-based quirk as the real cause fo= r the > > > > > issue seems to be the AML in question, which means a firmware pro= blem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I disagree as this is a linux specific workaround and windows g= oes > > > > that path and succeeds. This firmware based workaround was added, > > > > because it broke on Linux. > > > > > > Apparently so at the time it was added, but would it still break afte= r > > > the kernel changes made since then? > > > > > > Moreover, has it not become harmful now? IOW, wouldn't it work after > > > removing the "Linux workaround" from the AML? > > > > > > The only way to verify that I can see would be to run the system with > > > custom ACPI tables without the "Linux workaround" in the AML in > > > question. > > > > > > > the workaround is not enabled by default, because it has to be > > explicitly enabled by the user. > > I'm not sure what you are talking about. > > I'm taking specifically about the ((OSYS =3D=3D 0x07DF) && (_REV =3D=3D 0= x05)) > check mentioned by Mika which doesn't seem to depend on user input in > any way. >